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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Michael King:
[QB]Robert,
Have you ever visited the OCA parishes out west? Out here the OCA isnt quite the same as it is back east. In the Indiana listserv, Bishop Tikhon has certainly voiced his strong support for ROCOR, and has said that laity in his diocese are welcome to commune at any ROCOR parish if they have permission. Bishop Tikhon has also said on the listserv that he has not consecrated any parishes with pews (he doesn't like them-there was a strong editorial in the Diocesan Paper about them sometime ago, written by a priest whose name I can't recall).
Yes, although I have never been out west, I am very familiar with the OCA/ROCOR situation. Vladyko Tikhon and I have comunicated with eachother via email on a number of occasions and I consider myself on friendly terms with him. He is truly a very traditional Bishop and a Russophile as well. His LA cathedral still has Slavonic services every week and he does indeed permit parishes to use the old calendar.
However in the mid west the OCA is under Bishop Job of Chicago who, AFAIK, is a big fan of Americanization and liturgical renewal. The OCA parish in Kansas City, for instance, is just so overjoyed to be an open minded English language worship community that even the very thought of uttering one word of the liturgy in a "foriegn tongue" might bring the building down or something. But they are nice people Im sure and I probably will go to their Church for Pascha this year because of personal reasons.
For example, there is an OCA parish out here I'm well acquainted with that has a 3hr. Sat. night vigil every week, 530 matins and 530 vespers daily, and is on the old calender!
Wow!!!! They must be all converts I bet?
May God preserve and protect the ROCOR!
Amen to that, Especially from sectarianism
Robert K.
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Glory to Jesus Christ! Dear Brother Robert K. Thank you for your kind words and thoughts. We too were in shock when His grace's words were presented to us. We were obedient but it was not where we felt God wanted us at that time in our spiritual life, we were blessed to find a haven in which we are able to grow spiritually. I hope that you are having a blessed Great Lent, as we are having. It is exciting to be following the traditional typica and the readings for Great Lent in our journey to the Feasts of Feasts. I will include you in my Wednesday and Friday Akathists that I do in a personal ministry of intercessory prayer. I do an Akathist to Our Lady of Kazan on Wednesday and an Akathist to the Most Holy Theotokos on Friday around noon. I hope it will be of some assistance in our joint wish for ROCOR to become less sectarian once again. Your brother in Christ, Thomas 
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"Wow!!!! They must be all converts I bet?"
Yep, they have convert-itis.
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I know some members of the ROCOR parishes in Latin America (Argentina and Costa Rica) and they are very "ecumenical" and open-minded, they receive faithful of all backgrounds and do accept new converts.
I understand that this is not the same in the USA. Remember that a lot of new converts, not only in the ROCOR (also in other jurisdictions) are anti-catholic because they come from a "conservative" protestant background that used terms like "poppery, romish, idolatry" and all this protestant stuff. At the Orthodox Information Centre site you can find that the most anti-catholic articles are posted by former protestants with English surnames. The Old Calendar Churches have received this kind of "converts" too.
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Dear Remie,
being anti-ecumenical and recieving new converts is no contradiction!!!
And remember that anti-catholicism is widepsread in Eastern Europe among people who never been protestants in their life!
For the record, I'm a member of a parish of the Moscow Patriarchate, i.e. not an Old Calendarist (allthough I on the Old Calendar..), but I just think you're being unfair against them...
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Remie,
OrthodoxSWE is correct. Being anti-ecumenical and welcoming to new converts are two different things. The essence of the anti-Catholicism found among Protestant converts to Orthodoxy is quite different that that of the anti-Catholicism found among cradles in central and eastern Europe.
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You wrote:
-Being anti-ecumenical and welcoming to new converts are two different things.
Yes it's true. I didn't mean it was the same. Remember that I said that the Old Calendarists receive many converts too.
Old Calendarists are a fascinating church, and very atractive for all people, as well as the old believers. Not all of them are anti-ecumenical, the Old Calendar Church of Romania has good relations (if not warm) with the Greek catholic Church and not with the Patriarchal Church.
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