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Well, Moscow always has a fit anyway.
But besides that, how is this a bad thing? Could someone explain to this ignorant teen?
Peace of Christ,
Nathan Augustine.
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The article didn't look too outrageous, except for calling calling the UGCC the "Uniate Church". It really got to the bottom of the issue: In deciding to move its headquarters from western Lviv to Kiev, the Uniate Church is indicating that it sees itself as a pan-Ukrainian church - rather than a regional peculiarity Note that the BBC didn't mention the UOC-KP or UAOC, whose existence Moscow should find equally - perhaps even more - troubling. Marc
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To my mind this is an incredibly biased article  Just when did you hear any RC or EC person refer to the UGCC as Uniate ? This really is a bad article - very onesided . The word Union /Uniate is used 11 times in 21 pargraphs - some of which are only a few words long . Even stylistically - this is bad
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Ooooh..you mean the "Uniate" crap.
Yeah, that's pretty bad.
But nothing less unfortunately than what I expect from the garbage machine.
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As a professor among those who attempted to educate me was fond of saying: "they printed it; therefore it's false".
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Well - to resurrect this I got so mad about the BBC article that I actually emailed them - I mean ME ?? This is what I sent on their web form From: xxxxxxxxxx Email address: zzzzzzzzzzzzzz@ntlworld.com Country: Scotland COMMENTS: I refer to this morning's item on the transfer of the UGCC to it's new headquarters in Kyiv. I deduce that your Correspondant Jan Repa is not a member of the UGCC and would infer from the article, has been brainwashed by the Russian Orthodox Church . Yes that is probably inflammatory - but so is the use of the word "uniate " to describe the UGCC You should be aware that the head of the UGCC is indeed a Major Archbishop of the Catholic Church - indeed he is a Cardinal - Lubomyr Cardinal Husar - and that title was granted by no lesser person than the Pope. Since this article has been written from the standpoint of the Orthodox Church , could we now have one written from the standpoint of the Catholic Church ? On the Europe page from where I got the link to this most offensive article http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/default.stm is the comment <<Uneasy neighbours Ukraine's pro-Vatican Uniate Church eyes Orthodox heartland >> This is just untrue Frankly I am surprised at such a scandalously biased bit of reporting from the BBC. By the way I am NOT a member of the UGCC - I am Roman Catholic xxxxxx. xxxxxxxx , Scotland URL: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4166534.stmWell - much to my astonishment I got this answer today Dear Ms Taylor
Thank you for your comment on our Ukraine Church story. Jan Repa assures me that "Uniate" is a widely accepted term for the Greek-rite Catholic Church in Ukraine.
Historically Kiev has been the heartland of Orthodox Christians in Russia and Ukraine, so I do not accept your allegations of bias.
Regards, Laurence Peter. Europe editor. I have to say - I'm not impressed - what say you ? Anhelyna
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Dear Anhelyna:
Send a reply ASAP!
Amado
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Originally posted by Amadeus:
Dear Anhelyna:
Send a reply ASAP!
Amado Agreed - but how about composing it for me - I'm incandescent !
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Dear Ms. Taylor: I highly recommend Prof. Alex to do the honors!  Amado
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Dear Anhelyna, And I'm scandalised by the fact that . . . you are still Roman Catholic . . .  That Jan is a real "Repa" artist! Alex
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Dear Anhelyna,
Also, when it comes to these issues, imperial states will see eye-to-eye with imperial states.
That's why "Kiev" is no big deal among Brits, Yanks and other imperial folk.
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Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic:
Dear Anhelyna,
Also, when it comes to these issues, imperial states will see eye-to-eye with imperial states.
That's why "Kiev" is no big deal among Brits, Yanks and other imperial folk.
Alex OK - and with a wee bit of help I have now hit back Mr Peter I note your reply - but feel I should answer it . I would recommend that you and Jan Repa should read this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniate Not only I , but many millions of other folk do regard the term' Uniate' as perjorative �The term �uniate� itself, once used with pride in the Roman communion, had long since come to be considered as perjorative." [Professor John Erickson of St Vladimir's Theological Seminary 2001]
<< Because of the earlier popular usage of the term, it still appears occasionally in the Catholic press but official Catholic documents no longer use the term due to its perceived negative history. >> Wikipedia is by no means a definitive source, yet many people use it as a starting reference and hence will, as you do, think the BBC and its correspondents ought to be a trifle more careful in their use of terminology. I look forward to the use of less inflammatory language and perhaps a correspondent who is a little bit more sympathetic to the use of politically correct language
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I thought BBC in Ukrainian stood for
Baba Babi Ckazala!
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Whatever you mean, I certainly agree with the idea. :rolleyes:
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