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Spain has for the most part turned away from the Faith.
It is sad but true.

Zapatero the Socialist (I call him Shoeboy) was elected due to a backlash afgter the Madrid subway bombing.

In response to a terrorist atttack, Spain withdrew from Iraq. Subsequently, gay marriage was introduced and the government sought to pass a law restricting primary school education - seeking to put in entirely in the hands of the state. The Zapatero government even wanted to donate land to Muslims to build a mosque.

Castellano is a beautiful language. I love to attend La Santa Misa en espa�ol (I have missals in Spanish). The Spanish evangelized the New World, stretching from Tierra del Fuego to northern California, and from California to Florida. San Augustin predates the British settlement at Jamestown, Virginia by 43 years.

Enough history for one night. Sorry for the thread drift.

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So Catholic they have ellected a government that has brought in same sex marriage and have been just after the Germans for years in all the interesting ammusments best kept for after dark.
At least they can elect a government as opposed to 1939-75!!!!

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[b] So Catholic they have ellected a government that has brought in same sex marriage and have been just after the Germans for years in all the interesting ammusments best kept for after dark.
At least they can elect a government as opposed to 1939-75!!!! [/b]
I am still trying to work this one out. I suppose from a minimalist point of view you are right. Anything is better than nothing.

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Dear Pavel,

You didn't like "La Rambla?!" smile La Rambla is great! smile

(I think you've got to get out more wink ).

At least they have a Catholic culture and so there is something to work with with respect to evangelization!

I was in a Carmelite Church that had a chapel to the miraculous Crucifix of Lepanto and I wanted to light a large candle before it.

I fidgeted with the candle, as the flame didn't seem to take.

Then a woman and one or two others came over and started to help me.

Somehow, we finally DID light that candle, by gosh! smile

They spoke Catalan, so I REALLY didn't know what they were talking about. But they were so very pious and gentle that it really left a deep impression on me.

Ultimately, God will judge who is devoted to Him.

Barcelona and Spain have their history and devotions - we just need to drink deeply of those sacred waters for our spiritual refreshment and health!

Vozdrastviye!

Alex

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being that spanish is a romance language, it raises a question i have always had. has the divine liturgy of saint john chrysostom ever been said in Latin? i think in pre-schism days it could have been possible for byzantines living in italy.

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being that spanish is a romance language, it raises a question i have always had. has the divine liturgy of saint john chrysostom ever been said in Latin? i think in pre-schism days it could have been possible for byzantines living in italy.
No, but here's a link to the Latin translation prepared by Erasmus:

http://ffyl.uncu.edu.ar/departamentos/filosofia/centros/cefim/Liturgikon%20Latine.pdf

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