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#79299 12/03/02 03:00 PM
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Dear Communion of Saints,

Alexander Men is locally venerated and there are many icons of him as "Saint" although he hasn't been formally declared so by the ROC - just a matter of time.

As do many others, I venerate him as St. Alexander privately and we are certainly entitled to call him that.

In the Latin West, there are many Saints who are so by local public acclamation only.

As an example, St Louis de Montfort venerated "Blessed Alan de la Roche" all his life, even saying Mass in his honour and mentioning him in all his writings. In fact, this Dominican preacher of the rosary was never beatified. But I digress . . . wink

The "semysvitchnyk" or menorah in Eastern Churches is on the Altar and those are the only lights that should be on an Eastern Church Altar.

The Roman Church at one point called Eastern Churches "Judaizers" for things like solemnizing Saturday - which we do.

The Oriental Orthodox Churches have a greater portion of the Judaic practice by far.

In ecumenical conversations, the Ethiopian Church even overtly states its commitment to "Judaism" in its traditions.

Alex

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Glory to Jesus Christ!

Glory to Him Forever!

How is Saturday solemnized? Like not working and the like smile ?

Adam


Glory to Jesus Christ! Glory Forever!
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Shouldn't Saturday not be solemnized, and be treated as any other day of the week, since the Early Church declared Sunday as the Lord's Day and the principal day of worship? Perhaps "solemnizing" Saturday is O.K., just like solemnizing Friday would be O.K. (every day if holy, after all) but shouldn't Sunday be set apart from all the others, held in special reverence?

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To answer a question with a question regarding Saturdays, well, I don't know just how the Saturday is solemnized in the Eastern tradition; there is evening vespers, I know, and sometimes a Divine Liturgy is celebrated on that day if there's a commemoration; beyond that I wouldn't know. However, in Roman Catholic terms, the day of Saturday is dedicated, isn't it, to the Blessed Virgin Mary? In the absence of any other feast or memorial day on Saturday, the day's Mass can be for the Blessed Virgin. (no doubt someone will now give you all the correct and elaborated answers to your question, Theosis.)

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Dear Friends,

Certainly the Ethiopians not only solemnize Saturdays, but celebrate it as part of Sunday.

For the Ethiopians, the "Sabbath" begins Friday at sundown and ends on Sunday at sundown.

The Byzantine Church solemnizes Saturday by, for example, forbidding fasting on Saturdays, except, of course, for the one Holy Saturday during the "Triduum Pasche."

The Horologion or Daily Office for Saturday in the Byzantine tradition celebrates the Mother of God, All Saints and All Souls - a tour de force to be sure that is not reflected in any other day of the week outside of the Day of the Resurrection (called in the West "Sunday" wink ).

In Ukrainian and Russian and other Slavic languages, "Saturday" is still called "Subota" or "the Sabbath."

Alex

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