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Dear Friends, Western-Rite Orthodox, High Church Anglicans and even Roman Catholics who prefer the traditional liturgy use the "Anglican Breviary" which is the English translation of the Breviary of Pope St Piux X with, in this case, the use of the King James Bible, Collects from the Book of Common Prayer and just one or two specifically Anglican commemorations. It also has a few offices from the Sarum and one or two other Uses. There is a site where one may order a copy, if one likes (I have one and it is excellent!) and also that gives lessons on how to pray it (it's complicated but that's what makes it interesting). http://www.anglicanbreviary.com Enjoy! Alex
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Dr. Roman,
A excellent choice for westerners and I second your esteemed suggestion.
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Dear James, I think even Easterners can benefit from it!  Alex
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Brother Alex, I have learned that giving advice to my Eastern brethern on their forum is sometimes equal to entering a minefield  . I proceed with extreme caution...comment...then take cover ! james
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Dear James, Yes, the nerve of some of these Easterners! Alex
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I used to own this volume. It was nicely produced. In the end I got rid of it and found that what would be better from a Catholic perspective is the full Divine Office in Latin and English according to the pre-conciliar use. It is 3 volumes and well produced. I own a copy, though I must confess that I am thinking of selling it on Ebay since I really never use it.
Alternatively, there is also "Lauds, Vespers and Compline" which is the English only translation of this same office, and only these primary offices. This is much less expensive.
I do prefer the modern Roman office with the simplifications it employed -- though I am not a huge fan of the English translation. I look forward to this being reformed.
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I do have Lauds Vespers & Compline, Daily Psalms by Fr. Frey a excellent little psalm/prayer book, plus 4 modern modern breviaries which are very diluted by the ICEL translations and various boo boos.
Don't hold your breath for the reformed breviary, it won't appear till well after the new Roman Missal...
The Anglican Breviary is a welcome to my eyes & spirit.
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The Anglican Breviary is great. The three volime is great too, but winning a bid on ebay is chancey and the prices usually start at 250.00.
There is also a yahoo group dedicated to questions and discussions of the anglican breviary.
OFF TOPIC: Does anyone know of real High Church Anglo-Catholic Parishes?
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Originally posted by dwight:
OFF TOPIC: Does anyone know of real High Church Anglo-Catholic Parishes? St. Mary the Virgin, NYC Church of the Advent, Boston St. Clement, Philly Christ Church, New Haven, CT All Saints, Ashmount (Boston) These are tops on my list and all have websites. Go to www.anglicansonline.org [ anglicansonline.org] They have tons of websites for Anglican churches all over the world. John K.
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Dear Friends, And it is a challenge to learn to use the Breviary! I haven't mastered it yet . . . I love the "Double Prayer" or "Triple Prayer" beginning etc. It makes our Byzantine Horologion simple by comparison! Alex
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Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic: Dear Friends,
And it is a challenge to learn to use the Breviary!
I haven't mastered it yet . . .
I love the "Double Prayer" or "Triple Prayer" beginning etc.
It makes our Byzantine Horologion simple by comparison!
Alex Don't make me laugh! :rolleyes: The Breviary is a "all-in-one" volume, whereas the Horologion/Chasolov is just the framework for services. To this one adds the Psalter, the Octoechos, Minea and possibly a Triodion depending on the time of year. Try preparing materials for a service such as Matins, properly. This can bring a man to tears - first of frustration, but eventually joy once it all comes together. Think the Divine Liturgy is simple? I think I have somewhere on my computer the 20+ possible variations for the Annunciation, depending when the feast falls in relation to Pascha. I can forward it to you, if you'd like. I'm not trying to place one tradition over the other, just pointing out that if you think our services are simple you haven't taken a good look. Σώσον, Κύριε, καί διαφύλαξον η�άς από τών Βασιλιάνικων τάξεων!
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Originally posted by KO63AP:
I think I have somewhere on my computer the 20+ possible variations for the Annunciation, depending when the feast falls in relation to Pascha. I can forward it to you, if you'd like.
Andrij-- And I'm sure that none of them were like how we celebrated Annunciation here in the Pittsburgh Metropolia this year!
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Dear Andriju, X I never said our services are simple - only that the Breviary, for me, presents a set of challenges that I can't seem to overcome just yet. And even when I think I've mastered Matins in our Church, I know I'm probably leaving out this or that . . . But I still probably cover off more than many of our parishes do! I at least don't leave out Psalm 118 and put in the Polyeleos all the time for convenience! Alex
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Originally posted by KO63AP: Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic: [b] Dear Friends, And it is a challenge to learn to use the Breviary! I haven't mastered it yet . . . I love the "Double Prayer" or "Triple Prayer" beginning etc. It makes our Byzantine Horologion simple by comparison! Alex
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I'm not trying to place one tradition over the other, just pointing out that if you think our services are simple you haven't taken a good look. [/b]I echo this. The Latin breviary's easy in comparison with our Byzantine services - I'd mastered the rubrics of the Breviarum Romanum by the time I was 15. Mind you, this is the Breviary where everything is in Latin - even the rubrics. No challenge to figure out things at all!
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