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Those who feel the need for a "simplified" form of the Divine Liturgy on occasion might do well to consider the Divine Liturgy of Saint James.
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Originally posted by Father Gregory:
Also in another section of the typicon it states that at the Little Entrance, the priest may simply elevate the Gospel book rather than make the procession. Father, Can you point to what section (chapter, page number, etc) where this can be found? Thanks! Dave
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Originally posted by byzanTN: But, the bad thing about being an organist in a Latin Rite Church is that I often hear sermons 2 or more times. Unlike a good story, most of them don't get better from being heard a second time. I have gotten really good at slipping out of the organ loft and returning just in time for the Creed.  [/QB] You mean there are still organists around in the Latin Rite? Most parishes around HERE use guitars or a group of acapella singers. (I thought maybe they were being Byzantinized. LOL!) Tammy
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Originally posted by Tammy: Originally posted by byzanTN: But, the bad thing about being an organist in a Latin Rite Church is that I often hear sermons 2 or more times. Unlike a good story, most of them don't get better from being heard a second time. I have gotten really good at slipping out of the organ loft and returning just in time for the Creed.
Tammy [/QB]Yes, we are still around. I work for a priest who is a fine musician himself, and who sets very high standards for church music. Had you been with us at Midnight Mass on Christmas Eve, you would have heard a French Baroque prelude, choral selections from "The Messiah," some Gregorian, and a large French organ work, a "Carillon" by Louis Vierne as a postlude. There is one mass per week on Sunday evening for the kum-bah-yah crowd, but since it's a late Sunday mass, it attracts more people from other parishes than from ours. The folk music crowd is there because no organist has ever wanted to play for a 5th mass on Sunday.
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Originally posted by Tammy:
Most parishes around HERE use guitars or a group of acapella singers. (I thought maybe they were being Byzantinized. LOL!)
Tammy, Guitar groups are so ... 60-ish. Many Latin parishes sent the hippies packing long ago. I guess they got tired of the Peter, Paul, and Mary tunes. Such crap. It all brings back bad memories of the Latin seminary with their 'creative' (read: destructive) prayer. Interesting though, nobody has gotten relative with rap music.
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No, many Latin parishes are still stuck in the 60's.
You have to rent this movie, entitled "A Might Wind". Its a "mocumentary" of the 60's folk movement. One song, "A Kiss at the end of the rainbow" could be any Roman Catholic Communion hymn.
A rap Mass?
Drink the wine, shew the bread, if you don't you gonna be dead.
Father, Son, the Holy Ghost, you know the one I dig the most, Peter Paul, James and John you know what side I be on.
Get down, get funky, with Jesus the honkey.
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Having studied the "Ordo Celebrationis" according to the Ruthenian Recension published in Rome in 1944, I can find no reference to a celebration of the Liturgy without a proper entrance (priest simply standing in front of the altar and elevating gospel). I would appreciate a number reference, as each rubrical instruction in this book has a standardized number regardless of which translation one might be using.
Also, the use of the term recites is used not intending the priest to speak the words as opposed to sing them, but to take the prayer as opposed to omitting it.
Thanks for the assistance.
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Originally posted by Mike C.:
No, many Latin parishes are still stuck in the 60's.
You have to rent this movie, entitled "A Might Wind". Its a "mocumentary" of the 60's folk movement. One song, "A Kiss at the end of the rainbow" could be any Roman Catholic Communion hymn.
A rap Mass?
Drink the wine, shew the bread, if you don't you gonna be dead.
Father, Son, the Holy Ghost, you know the one I dig the most, Peter Paul, James and John you know what side I be on.
Get down, get funky, with Jesus the honkey. So true, and so funny! I am afraid much of the Latin Church is still stuck firmly in the 60s. In some places you still see the flower children, but now they have gray pony tails, earings, and even tattoos. Gravity has not been kind to those tattoos which are not in the same places now as they were when new. It's kind of sad. The kids make fun of them. I guess today's relevance is tomorrow's hilarity.
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The "aging hippies" are a serious problem - I enjoyed the sixties myself, but now there are other things to enjoy. Nothing is more out-of-date than yesterday's avant-garde!
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