The Byzantine Forum
Newest Members
Regf2, SomeInquirer, Wee Shuggie, Bodhi Zaffa, anaxios2022
5,881 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 261 guests, and 25 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Latest Photos
Holy Saturday from Kirkland Lake
Holy Saturday from Kirkland Lake
by Veronica.H, April 24
Byzantine Catholic Outreach of Iowa
Exterior of Holy Angels Byzantine Catholic Parish
Church of St Cyril of Turau & All Patron Saints of Belarus
Byzantine Nebraska
Byzantine Nebraska
by orthodoxsinner2, December 11
Forum Statistics
Forums26
Topics35,219
Posts415,299
Members5,881
Most Online3,380
Dec 29th, 2019
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#95931 02/19/05 06:00 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 828
M
Myles Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
M
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 828
Perhaps I'm going to be berated as a kill joy for this or maybe a bit puritanical. biggrin But well,there are worse things...

My post centres on February 14th, which in the Latin Church is the feastday of Sts Cyril and Methodius. Previously it was, as many people wont have forgotten, St Valentine's feastday. However, I for one am quite displeased with how the name of a martyr is used for mere market purposes at the expense of his memorial--particularly since he's no longer on the universal calender.

My bright idea then is, especially to all you Europeans out there, to next year do something special for the feast of Sts Cyril and Methodius. I mean those two genius' were prolific in their work of evangelising the slav's even created an alphabet. Moreover, they are patrons of Europe and saints for all both East and West. I think if we could get together we could re-baptise February 14th into the Catholic faith and make it a day of Oecuemnical unity in the name of the Lord, as St Valentine himself would've wanted.


"We love, because he first loved us"--1 John 4:19
#95932 02/20/05 01:51 PM
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,688
Moderator
Member
Offline
Moderator
Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,688
On the Byzantine Calendar, February 14 marks the feast of St Cyril. May 11 is observed as the feast of Ss Cyril and Methodius, Teachers and Apostles to the Slavs .

#95933 02/20/05 02:24 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 828
M
Myles Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
M
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 828
Okie dokie, maybe not the best day then, lol! biggrin


"We love, because he first loved us"--1 John 4:19
#95934 02/20/05 02:38 PM
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,461
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,461
Myles, May 11 is a major feastday at all Slavic churches dedicated to the holy brothers, and even in Slavic parishes not dedidcated to them is celebrated with a festival.

#95935 02/20/05 02:45 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 828
M
Myles Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
M
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 828
Cool, they were great those two. I just wanted a way to try and Christianise the paganism of February 14th. I just dont like the way a martyr's name is used for market purposes in a way that completely ignores the blood he shed for the faith.


"We love, because he first loved us"--1 John 4:19
#95936 02/20/05 08:44 PM
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,505
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,505
I for one have started to commemorate St Valentine along with Sts Cyril and Methodius.
Just because he is no longer on the universal calendar does not mean we cannot celebrate his feast.
We also recognize and pray for married people the week end before. There are many ways we can combat the neo pagan emphasis.

Stephanos I

PS
Some Catholic trivia. Does anyone know where the relics of the Martyr St Valentine are?
A prize for those who are correct. wink

#95937 02/20/05 09:38 PM
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,586
Likes: 1
O
Member
Offline
Member
O
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,586
Likes: 1
Yes biggrin

There are relics of St Valentine in the care of the Fransiscans in the Parish of Blessed John Duns Scotus in Glasgow .

Anhelyna

#95938 02/20/05 11:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,959
Likes: 1
Moderator
Member
Offline
Moderator
Member
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,959
Likes: 1
Okay Father...Anhelyna gets the prize! smile

( What IS the prize, anyway?) confused

Alice

#95939 02/21/05 01:03 AM
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 5,708
B
Member
Offline
Member
B
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 5,708
Quote
Originally posted by alice:
Okay Father...Anhelyna gets the prize! smile

( What IS the prize, anyway?) confused

Alice
I think you should insist on good chocolate. biggrin

#95940 02/21/05 02:05 AM
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,688
Moderator
Member
Offline
Moderator
Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,688
Quote
Originally posted by Myles:
Cool, they were great those two. I just wanted a way to try and Christianise the paganism of February 14th. I just dont like the way a martyr's name is used for market purposes in a way that completely ignores the blood he shed for the faith.
Myles,

I applaud your efforts to Christianise February 14, however, strictly speaking the problem is not paganism, but rather commercialism.

#95941 02/21/05 02:30 AM
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 448
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 448
The relics of St. Valentine are in the chapel of St. Zeno in the church of Sta. Prasedea, in Rome. It is the same church where the Pillar of Flagelation is kept. The church is full of mosaics!!

#95942 02/21/05 02:37 AM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,700
H
Administrator
Member
Offline
Administrator
Member
H
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,700
The relics of Saint Valentine, (perhaps another one?) were given to the Carmelite Order by the Pope of Rome from their original burial place in the Roman catacombs, and are now venerated in the Carmelite Church in Dublin (Whitefriars Street Church).

#95943 02/21/05 07:09 AM
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,505
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,505
Hieromonk Elias won the prize and it is (drum roll) a week of prayers for him. You perhaps were thinking of something terestial? LOL.
But he is right the Ossuary is keep in the Carmelite Church in White Friar St Dublin in a beautiful gold sarcophogus behind a grillunderneath a beautiful statue of St Valentine.
Stephanos I

#95944 02/21/05 02:57 PM
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,586
Likes: 1
O
Member
Offline
Member
O
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,586
Likes: 1
Quote
Originally posted by Stephanos I:
Hieromonk Elias won the prize and it is (drum roll) a week of prayers for him. You perhaps were thinking of something terestial? LOL.
But he is right the Ossuary is keep in the Carmelite Church in White Friar St Dublin in a beautiful gold sarcophogus behind a grillunderneath a beautiful statue of St Valentine.
Stephanos I
Hmmphm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/279285.stm

I have a very strong feeling that we will never get to the bare bones of the truth here.

We are certainly not giving up our claim easily smile

Anhelyna

#95945 02/21/05 05:25 PM
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,505
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,505
It is well worth a pilgrimage to the Carmelite Church in White Friar St, Dublin. I have made it often myself.
Stephanos I

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard
The Byzantine Forum provides message boards for discussions focusing on Eastern Christianity (though discussions of other topics are welcome). The views expressed herein are those of the participants and may or may not reflect the teachings of the Byzantine Catholic or any other Church. The Byzantine Forum and the www.byzcath.org site exist to help build up the Church but are unofficial, have no connection with any Church entity, and should not be looked to as a source for official information for any Church. All posts become property of byzcath.org. Contents copyright - 1996-2022 (Forum 1998-2022). All rights reserved.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5