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by griego catolico
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Subdeacon Brian Butcher of the UGCC discusses the ramifications of Traditionis custodes for the entire Catholic Church, both East and West:

He makes a good point starting at 10:03 [] to 10:50.
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by OEFNavyVet
The problem is, the contemporary Ordinary Form of the Mass at your local Roman Catholic Church likely does not adhere to the actual liturgical constitution of the Second Vatican Council.

How can Romen expect fiedlity and loyalty when they themselves do not even adhere to their own council? Bizarre.
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by Ruthenian1988
@LionHippo44 By any chance, did you have an account on the fisheaters forums by any chance?
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by ajk
I spoke Sunday with two members of a local Orthodox church. They said a significant growth is in the Western Rite. It took me a while to process what I was seeing in this article but it may become familiar: Saint Benedict Orthodox Church blesses Lake Wichita []

Saint Benedict Orthodox Church blesses Lake Wichita

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by searsdp04
I was very happy to hear that Pope Francis is not including the FSSP in his moto proprio, but I have wandered what it will do to the eastern churches. I’m not that familiar with them (that’s why I am here, to learn), but I have wandered about it. We do have a smaller Byzantine parish here and I would love to see them grow.
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by griego catolico
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The phrase "the spirit of Vatican II" has been used to justify things that the documents of the Council had never intended.

Yes, the call of the Council was for the Eastern Catholic Churches to recover their authentic liturgical heritage and to "de-latinize".

Unfortunately, some of them (e.g., Maronite, Syro-Malabar, Chaldean, Coptic, Syriac) have undergone a "neo-latinization" or, as others put it, a "Novus Ordo-ization", such as:

1) shorter Sunday Liturgies and rites,
2) liturgies celebrated facing the people,
3) use of "altar girls",
4) use of electronic musical instruments not part of one's liturgical tradition,
5) use of statues.

A Russian Greek Catholic priest said to me jokingly that some of the most beautiful looking Roman Catholic churches are the Eastern Catholic churches.
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