Proverbs 16:23-24: The heart of the wise makes his speech judicious and adds persuasiveness to his lips. Gracious words are like a honeycomb, sweetness to the soul and health to the body.
You neglect that the very next couplet read:Sometimes there is a way that seam to be right, but in the end it is the way to death.
I think you misunderstand Luther, and do a great disrespect to him. He was not saying that one need to be offensive in their presentation of the Gospel. He was saying that the Gospel is offensive to those who reject the Truth of Jesus Christ.
I doubt I misunderstand him. Other than JPII he is the non-Orthodox I have read the most.
It is not your beliefs that cause problem on this Forum. It is your lack of charity in the way you present them.
My roomate just reminded me of an article in one of the RC papers to which he subscribes. It's really more of an add and if I can find it online I'll post it. The sum of it is even Christ the prince of Peace, indead Peace himself, did not sacrifice truth for pelasing words.
You come across as a fresh convert to an Old Calendarist Orthodox group who seeks to find support for his faith by condemning others.
In fact the only form of Christianity I know is Orthodoxy and True Calenderist. However I have studied under those of other traditions who are considered great in their traditions. Men such as: Mike Whitmer of Grand Rapids Theological Seminary, a Baptist college; John Hardon S.J., the spiritual father of Mother Thereasa; John Leonard, who was the advisor to the Melkite Patriarch at the Vatican II; Steven Potter, the Ottowa tribe cleric. All of these men refuse to pull punches. The truth is the truth. Potter once related the following poem:
The Truth hurts.
The Truth is like a double edged sword.
The Truth has no handle only points.
The Truth hurts.
The Truth hurts the one giving it.
The Truth hurts the one receiving it.
The Truth hurts.
But we must all grasp it.
For in the end.
The Truth heals.
60On hearing it, many of his disciples said, "This is a hard teaching. Who can accept it?" 61Aware that his disciples were grumbling about this, Jesus said to them, "Does this offend you? 62What if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before! 63The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit[e] and they are life. 64Yet there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe and who would betray him. 65He went on to say, "This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled him." 66From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him. 67"You do not want to leave too, do you?" Jesus asked the Twelve. 68Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69We believe and know that you are the Holy One of God." 70Then Jesus replied, "Have I not chosen you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is a devil!" 71(He meant Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot, who, though one of the Twelve, was later to betray him.)
It would be far better for you to present the sweetness of the Truth of Jesus Christ as understood by your Orthodox Church. So far, your witness of Jesus Christ suggests that He is offensive and has come to earth only to condemn, and not to save. You do a disservice to Orthodoxy when you present such a witness to the world.
Please consider this post a formal warning. Speak with charity at all times or you will loose your privilege to speak on this Forum.
It is important for people to tell the truth because truth is the foundation of love. We cannot love what we do not know... Lying means deliberately speaking contrary to what is on a persons mind. (Basic Catholic Catechism p. 70, this course was first written for the nuns of Calcutta)
I will have you know that most of the complaints we have received this afternoon have been from Orthodox participants, and most are complaining that your presentation of Orthodoxy is offensive to Orthodoxy!
My RC roomate discouraged me from sending a person to receive charity from one of the local RC churches. His reason? Although they are listed on the website of the local diascease, "they aren't Catholic."
I take your warning seriously. As seriously as I took the "warning" of those who burned me because my grandfather was a jew. But I also remember now what we sing at the Liturgy:10Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you." [/i]
Would you I avoid these hard things? Would you we hold hands and sing cumbya? Forgive me if unlike the Basilica of St Adalberts in Grand Rapids, Michigan I refuse to pray with demons.
Those who came to hear harmonious chants and prayers of Buddhist monks at the Basilica of St. Adalbert...
The Catholic parish on Grand Rapids' West Side allowed seven Tibetan Buddhist monks into the church Tuesday evening, where about 35 people gathered to see them...
"Buddhism is a very tolerant religion," Wangdi said this morning. "The Dalai Lama has extreme respect for other religions. He and the pope are good friends."
Forgive me if I hold fast to the trditions handed to me. Forgive me for being Orthodox. Forgive me if I ask you to think. That is if straight talk offends your "itching ears."