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#201538 08/03/06 07:39 PM
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Forgiving Mel Gibson
by Father Jonathan Morris

August 2, 2006

Perspective is important, particularly when celebrities are involved. That is why I have let a few days pass before getting out my pen. I was determined not to let my friendship with Mel distort my opinion of what happened last Friday and what it might mean.

Mel Gibson�s early morning arrest for suspected DUI, accompanied by his verbal tirade, has created quite the buzz for Hollywood reporters � and rightly so. Mel himself has called his drunken comments vitriolic and despicable, a shame to himself and to his family, and contrary to his faith. Newsworthy, I would say.

But let�s remember what �buzz� is. It�s viral-like gossip about what might be. In this case, the buzz in the newspapers, television, and particularly on the web has turned from what might have happened (Mel was quick to confirm the reports), to what the incident might mean.

Abraham Foxman, president of the Anti-Defamation League, was keen to push the envelope in these suppositions.

�His tirade finally reveals his true self and shows that his protestations during the debate over his film 'The Passion of the Christ,' that he is such a tolerant, loving person, were a sham. This confirms what all of us knew before, Mel Gibson is an anti-Semite and a bigot.�

Big words.

For over a year, I worked with Mel and his team during the filming, post-production, and marketing of "The Passion of the Christ." I sat with him in his on-set trailer, reviewed clips with him in the studio, discussed the script with him over the phone and in his Santa Monica offices, and planned pre-screenings of the movie for critics and opinion-makers all over Europe.

Now, Mel and I don�t agree on everything, not even about some aspects of theology. His traditionalist view of Catholicism is different than mine. Because of our differences, I was careful to get a few things straight before agreeing to work on "The Passion." I wanted to hear directly from him about his opinion of the Jews, in particular whether they could be blamed collectively � as a race or religion � for the killing of Jesus. Aware also of the accusations in the media regarding his apparent denial or minimalization of the Holocaust, I was intent on setting straight this part of his record.

Mel�s response to both of my inquiries over an extended period of time, in word and in action, was unequivocal. I knew then, as I know now, Mel is not an anti-Semite.

Also big words.

I speak confidently and unambiguously, because my experience in working on "The Passion" taught me something else about Mel. While some people are willing to put on facades and give a good �spin� to save face and a career, Mel Gibson cannot. He is painfully honest and incapable of writing or approving a public relations piece in which he does not believe whole-heartedly.

I saw this scrupulous conscious at work in his response to every false accusation of bigotry leveled at him in the months preceding the release of "The Passion." Many people wanted him to make sweeping public statements about religion, theology, and history � just to make sure he wasn�t a bigot. Instead, he focused his attention on producing a film about the greatest love story of all time, free from bigotry and in no way anti-Semitic. The world saw for itself a reflection of Mel�s soul.

On Monday Mel wrote a letter to the Jewish community. He requested forgiveness and asked Jewish community leaders for help in working toward long-term reconciliation. Much to his credit, Abraham Foxman responded graciously.

I was impressed.

Yesterday, on FOX News Radio with Spencer Hughes, I applauded Mr. Foxman for his nobility in having accepted Mel�s apology. Today, however, I was surprised to see Mr. Foxman�s op-ed in the New York Post which calls into question Mel�s sincerity:

"I'm still skeptical because these are still words from his handlers � the same people who brought you the first statement that didn't acknowledge his anti-Semitism. I'd like to hear from the man himself. These words are still from his handlers � Mel Gibson's words in the police blotter, we know those are from him."

If Mr. Foxman thinks Mel�s handlers wrote and distributed the statement without Mel�s full consent, he doesn�t know Mel Gibson. To ask for yet another apology is out of place and, in my opinion, reflects badly on the organization Mr. Foxman represents.

Mel�s deplorable comments came from somewhere. In his inebriated state, he revealed what was on his mind in a given moment. Together with Mel, I condemn his statements about Jewish people and say they are not true. But I praise him for what is on his mind now, in cold and reflective sobriety, as expressed in his first apology and his subsequent letter to the Jewish community.

Now is a time for forgiveness. Mel has asked for it. We should give it.

God bless, Father Jonathan
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This article is part of a regular blog hosted by Father Jonathan Morris on FOXNews.com. You can invite new readers by forwarding this URL address: www.foxnews.com/fatherjonathan. [foxnews.com]

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his actions in follow up to this horrid incident will speak louder then his words

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This is not surprising in the least...before The Passion of the Christ was finished and released he was already judged and condemned by many...

He is no different any of us...we all have some problems of various natures...

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Gibson: [My father] writes books about canon law and Catholicism.
Playboy: Have you read them?
Gibson: Yeah. He is pretty sound canonically and theologically. He's a bookish guy. Uses words I've never heard of.
Playboy: What does he have to do with the Alliance for Catholic Tradition, which one magazine called "an extreme conservative Catholic splinter group"?
Gibson: He started it. Some people say it's extreme, but it emphasizes what the institution was and where it's going. Everything he was taught to believe was taken from him in the Sixties with this renewal Vatican Council. The whole institution became unrecognizable to him, so he writes about it.

Playboy Interview, (July, 1995).

I do not respect anyone who has anything to do with playboy magazine. Especially if they try to make Christian films 10 yeas later.

Most popular actors in films and television seem to be eccentric and mentally disordered. They may be charismatic and talented in entertaining but they dont have much coherent logic in the rest of there lives. I wash my hands of all of it.

God help rehabilitation centers and AA meetings of the world.

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People make mistakes. I believe in forgiveness. Obviously talking to PLayboy magazine was against better judgement but I believe that maybe Mr. Gibson has matured a little over the years. I still have respect for him.

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What Mel Gibson said was rediculous. Certainly the Jews were not the cause of all the wars in the world or we would have to thank them for the U.S.A. :rolleyes: :p :rolleyes: :p :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by Criostoir McAvoy:
I do not respect anyone who has anything to do with playboy magazine. Especially if they try to make Christian films 10 yeas later. Most popular actors in films and television seem to be eccentric and mentally disordered. They may be charismatic and talented in entertaining but they dont have much coherent logic in the rest of there lives. I wash my hands of all of it.
Criostoir,

Ever do anything that you were ashamed of? If so, aren't you glad it is not a matter of public record for you and your children, friends and family, and the whole world to see?

In interviews about the movie "The Passion of the Christ" Mel indicated that this movie was made as an expression of repentance for his sins (some of which are chronicled in his earlier movies). In the scene in which Christ is nailed to the cross, Mel made sure that it was his hand that held the nails.

Jesus did not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance. Anyone who has struggled with chemical dependency knows the power that such an addiction can have.

To quote the Rule of St. Benedict, "begin again."

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I hope that Mr. Gibson gets the help he needs. frown

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http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/8/4/131230.shtml?s=ic

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Jodie Foster: Mel Gibson Not Anti-Semitic

Several of Mel Gibson's friends say he's a "different person" when he's drinking, but they do not believe he's anti-Semitic.

Movie producer Dean Devlin said he and his wife are Jewish, and he considers Gibson - who unleashed an anti-Jewish tirade when arrested for drunken driving July 28 - one of his best friends in Hollywood.

"If Mel is an anti-Semite, then he spends a lot of time with us, which makes no sense," Devlin told the Los Angeles Times. He met Gibson while co-producing "The Patriot," in which Gibson starred. "But he is an alcoholic, and while that makes no excuse for what he said, because there is no excuse, I believe it was the disease speaking, not the man."

Jodie Foster said she does not believe that drunkenness excuses hurtful remarks, but doubts claims that Gibson is prejudiced against Jews.

"Is he an anti-Semite? Absolutely not," Foster told the newspaper for a story in Friday's editions. "But it's no secret that he has always fought a terrible battle with alcoholism."

Though it was widely believed that Gibson has been sober since the early '90s, some people close to him say he has been on and off the wagon for years.

"I have been with Mel when he has fallen off, and he becomes a completely different person," Devlin said. "It is pretty horrifying."

Gibson was charged this week with two misdemeanor counts of driving under the influence of alcohol.

Foster, who co-starred with Gibson in "Maverick," said she believed he will recover from his latest fall. Gibson "was a shining example of how low you can go when you are young and still pull yourself up," she said. "He took his recovery very seriously, which is why I know he is strong enough to get through this now."

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I think it was the liquor talking. I've seen that happen to many other people, and what was said shouldn't be taken seriously. As for being anti-semitic, many Jews are not even Semites. I would even say that some Jews can be anti-semitic. I hope Gibson gets the help he needs and gets the drinking under control.

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Mel Gibson as an actor must talk and give interviews all over the place. He does this as promotion of his products, is part of his main source of income. Hollywood is as we know all smoke and mirrors. He would be guided by a good firm of people who work to market his image and right now would be working in overdrive to salvage his name and keep him marketable. Lets not get like those folk who get actors professional lives mixed up with the real world. He was drunk and said what he said. It tends to suggest that when uninhibited by alcohol he came out with his real views of Jews and the world. Alcohol in excess tends to do that to people. Spin doctors are now working very hard to represent an image that is and was making lots of money for him and them.

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To my mind, what has been witnessed speaks more about the power of chemical dependency than about any latent anti-semitism on the part of Mel Gibson.

People get drunk and say and do things out of character all the time. With that said, not everyone gets drunk and makes anti-semitic statements.

I will only point out that Mel Gibson was literally RAKED over the coals unjustly just a few years ago by many, many Jewish spokesmen for "The Passion of the Christ"...they cried anti-Semitism at specific aspects ofthe films that are recorded in the Christian Gospels! We are also currently involved in wars to protect US and Israeli interests...wars that some (including the Servant of God, Pope John Paul of blessed memory and Pope Benedict) consider unjust and immoral. Israel's Zionist history of the treatment of Palestinians is not exactly a shining and righteous example of justice either, and while I might not argue for moral equivalency with the PLO/Hamas and Israel, there is allot of blame to go around for the Middle Eastern tinderbox. (Just read Melkite Archbishop Elias Chacour's "Blood Brothers" for a different perspective on these matters.)

SOOOooooo....yes, given Mel's personal and very public experience of unjust persecution at the hands of certain outspoken Jews (he was also defended by a few as well, including Miochael Medved), plus the war and some of his upbringing, perhaps it was buried somewhere deep in his mind.

But thought does not constitute action and everything that anyone who knows him has said indicates that this man is not anti-semitic.

Shame on some of those conservative pundits I have been listening to lately who have joined the "dump on Mel" crowd over this. I think their grandstanding on this issue is a way of ingratiating themselves to an otherwise unsympathetic audience by saying "Hey that's not me! I'm not so immoral as to make statements like that."

Give me a break. The man was d-r-u-n-k.

End of tirade.

Gordo

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or "In Vino Veritas" I suspect that is more accurate

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If he had been drunk and just mumbled we would not have this thread.

He made statements and asked pointed questions that were reported as racist.

Drunk he may have been but he had enough on his mind to know how to try and insult a policeman doing his duty.

There are no doubt there are some who are pleased to see him in this mess. This will also be the cover required to have a go at other issues under the guise of how shocked they are he said what he said and did what he did.

Poor Mel the American-Australian actor will ride this through. Tall poppies get taken to all the time. If he had been Mel the average bloke we would not know or care. Pray for him as one would for all unfortunates and hope he learns from this and his family are not made to suffer for his stupitidy.

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Another good article on the Mel-situation...and from the LA Times no less.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-gibson4aug04,1,1409910.story?coll=la-headlines-entnews&ctrack=1&cset=true

Gordo

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