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Pani Rose and Mary Jo, Congratulations to you and your husbands on your many years of sacramental marriage.  Paul
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Pani Rose and Paul, Thanks for your uplifting and kind comments. BTW, Pani Rose, I was only a professor a few years towards the end of my teaching days. Before I got married I taught high school and after that various part time projects, but spent much more time helping with the business and raising the kids. But loved teaching the college students the most and do miss that. Had a very close Southern Baptist friend in high school who did a lot of witnessing to me by her words and example. We were tennis partners on the squad. She is the one who first got me interested in daily bible study which just led me to becoming a stronger Catholic. And, like you, when I contemplate all of those years of Christian marriage I say...who would have ever thought?...Bless you and Deacon Stan and may you have many more years...You, too, Paul...and I am wondering if you still have that motorcycle. \o/  Mary Jo
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Originally posted by Pani Rose:
Talk about the tevelision doing inadvertant evangilization. Totally cool! Lives changed. I bet the news really really disappointed in this reality show. PRAISE THE LORD! Pani Rose
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Reality TV in monastery changes five lives forever
By Jonathan Petre, Religion Correspondent
(Filed: 30/04/2005)
Five men, ranging from an atheist in the pornography trade to a former Protestant paramilitary, have found their lives unexpectedly transformed in the latest incarnation of reality television - the monastery.
Interesting stuff, folks. Monks evangelized and transfigured, not inept administrators and navel-gazing accountants. We need to hear more of this going on. Wonderful story, Pani Rose. Joe
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Dear Joseph,
Perhaps the transfigured monks can influence the navel-gazers?
You remind of what Erasmas of Rotterdam once wrote in his "In Praise of Folly" in the vein of: At the Last Judgement, there will be a monk with a fine pair of gloves that he will present as proof positive that his flesh never touched money . . .
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Originally posted by Porter: Pani Rose and Paul,
Thanks for your uplifting and kind comments.
BTW, Pani Rose, I was only a professor a few years towards the end of my teaching days. Before I got married I taught high school and after that various part time projects, but spent much more time helping with the business and raising the kids. But loved teaching the college students the most and do miss that.
Had a very close Southern Baptist friend in high school who did a lot of witnessing to me by her words and example. We were tennis partners on the squad. She is the one who first got me interested in daily bible study which just led me to becoming a stronger Catholic.
And, like you, when I contemplate all of those years of Christian marriage I say...who would have ever thought?...Bless you and Deacon Stan and may you have many more years...You, too, Paul...and I am wondering if you still have that motorcycle. \o/
Mary Jo and if you think that's something, it was a Presbyterian minister that influenced me to start going to Confession. strange world, but a wonderful one at that. Much Love, Jonn
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/and if you think that's something, it was a Presbyterian minister that influenced me to start going to Confession. strange world, but a wonderful one at that. Much Love, Jonn/ Jonn,
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BBC Radio 4's Midweek [ bbc.co.uk] programme included Abbot Christopher Jamison of Wenthworth Abbey [ worthabbey.net] . His segment begins about 12 minutes into the show. The abbey's website also includes a section on BBC's show The Monastery [ worthabbey.net] . Σώσον, Κύριε, καί διαφύλαξον η�άς από τών Βασιλιάνικων τάξεων!
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This programme continues to appear in the news [ news.bbc.co.uk] !  Σώσον, Κύριε, καί διαφύλαξον η�άς από τών Βασιλιάνικων τάξεων!
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But monasteries are seizing their chance to turn the tide. The Benedictine monks at Pluscarden Abbey in northern Scotland are planning a weekend for those who are interested in experiencing life as followed by the monks in the TV show. Sounds like come and see to me. Isn't it amazing how the Holy Spirit works. Something TV apparently thought would be a worse case senerio for the people has turned into a major hit. God is so good and will use every opportunity possible to get his Word out. Thank you Jesus! I wonder what will happen when they find out that these people will also live changed lives. 
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Dear John,
Yes, the High Church movement is in Presbyterianism as well!
I once met a Minister who advocated auricular confession.
And then there's Iona that was (re-)started by a Presbyterian, I believe.
My local Presbyterian church actually has a stone from Iona that is cemented into the wall as a kind of memorial of that Holy Island.
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Dear Pani Rose,
I think that we really need to have monasteries and other "spirituality centres" or retreats come up front and centre to train people in prayer and meditation as well as spiritual reading.
Our priests and bishops tend to assume too much when they assume that the laity know how.
We have "how to" books and seminars all over the place.
How's about a real hands-on "how to" experience of Christian spirituality?
In my corner of the world, when someone says their going on a "spiritual retreat" it usually means they're doing Zen or Yoga . . .
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Alex, KO gave us the link to Worth Abbey. On their page regarding the show the Monastery they added a wonderful resource. I think this is an exquisite tool of evangelization. http://www.worthabbey.net/bbc/meditate.htm They offer tips in a way that are not over bearing for a new comer to life in Christ, or a youngster - no matter the age the years walkig with Jesus- wanting to go better, try harder at growing in Christ, and they make it simple! SIMPLE sometimes that is all my mind can handle. For instance just explaining this was a revelation to me, from "how to read slowly"... In order to receive what a sacred text (the Bible) has to offer, we must read slowly. This brings to mind the recent �slow food� movement in Italy, where villages guarantee to visitors that there are no �fast food� outlets and that all can enjoy their meals in peace. As an antidote to speed reading we need to foster slow reading, what monks call lectio divina. It is a right brain activity; we do not grasp the entire content immediately but in a circular manner. We read and advance, and then we go back and read again. With each repetition, something new may strike us. It takes time for us to become attuned to the subtle rhythms of a particular writing; the more we can slow down our reading, the more likely it is that we will catch sight of something unexpected. Reading can become communion with God if we pray before, during and after our reading. Ask God to speak and ask for the grace to listen with the ear of your heart. You could make your own this psalm. �O that today you would listen to his voice. Harden not your hearts.� ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never quite thought of reading as being circular, but then so is the relationship with the Triune God - circular or triangular depending on your rite. So that makes sence as to why I read and reread. Also, in todays fast past world the emphasis all to often is fast reading (suddenly drawing a total blank on the name of it), but if you can't, oh speed read, then you are behind the times. Well speed reading doesn't quite allow one to grasp the Word that God has laid out for us in his Word. But, you are right, we do need wonderful places to go on retreat like that. Here in Birmingham if anyone takes a notion, the sisters at the Casa Maria are wonderful, I believe you can take a week there to just be quiet and learn. http://www.sisterservants.com/ They are a delight, a blend of Franciscan and Domenican Spirituality, started by Mother Gabriel of the Domenicans of Nashville and Mother Angelica of EWTN. A good place to learn. And about two miles from EWTN. Pani Rose
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Dear Pani Rose, And there's always our very own Internet Carmel! Care to join? Alex
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Alex, I am reading. Don't know if I am disciplined enough to committ. Maybe I am just lazy Pani Rose
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