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Well put Andrew.

I thank you for that statement.

Dear Neil you said:

I say:

What preceded that was quite horrific. The Greeks, upset with the Treaty of Florence, went for direction to a monk they considered a saint. He told them that if they were to unite with the RCC, the Turks will take over the city.

Now this same monk, according to a certain historian whose name I am not able recall, (I read that book over thirty years ago, and it's not in my library), was in Italy under a different name. In Italy he was telling the Italians that they must unite with the Greeks.

Of course the historian was perplexed and kept checking and re-checking to make sure it was the same person. It was!

Well in Constantinople the peoples passions were aroused. So much so that the Greeks refused to enter the Church of Aghia Sophia for six months before it fell into the hands of the Turks. The Greeks perceived the church as having been contaminated by a Latin Mass.

In the meantime in the city, fights were breaking out between everyone. The Genovese were fighting with the Venetians, and the Greeks with the Italians, etc., etc...until that last fateful day. On that last day, they all united and went into the church. A little too late me thinks! :rolleyes:

I believe someone on this forum said that before the city fell to the Turks, a mist was seen rising from the church. Some say it was the Holy Spirit leaving, but it could have been the lifting of the veil of protection.

Zenovia

not to discount what you are saying,and with all my deepest love and respect to the canonical Orthodox, but also as one trained in historical research on a Masters level, I have learned to consider from whence the sources come, and to oft take some things I read with a grain of salt, a healthy skepticism never hurts.
Much Love,
Jonn

Maybe we need to start a holy crusade of prayer for the conversion of these people.
Stephanos I

Dear John,

The information I gave came from a variety of historians including Carroll and Durant. I do have most of the books and if you want I will give you the names and titles, except for the one mentioning the monk. That I do not have. After much searching, I did come across the name of the monk, but threw it out thinking I would never need it. It�s quite a long and unusual name, as are all Byzantine names, so I really can�t remember it.

I don�t know what seems strange to you? There was a great deal of turmoil over the Treaty of Florence and the Greeks were quite volatile. As for believing that the Turks would overtake the city if they united with the RCC, that shouldn�t seem strange, for after it was conquered by the Turks, many Orthodox said it was because the Orthodox united with the Catholics :rolleyes:

Oh and as far as the mist is concerned, I believe it was Alex that said it.

Zenovia