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You are correct. The Typicon distinguishes only between "bright" and "dark" vestments, with rare exceptions.
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They were probably the best vestments of each individual in the appropriate color shade.
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A priest told me that gold is the default color for vestments in Antiochian practice. It's not uncommon to see Byzantines with vestments that do not match. Especially on feast days, the priest may have the proper vestments for the day but the altar servers will not. (E.g., green vestments prescribed on Pentecost, red vestments used rarely in Byzantine practice, etc.) ------
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One consideration here is that vestments should fit the wearer, which means tailoring for that purpose. Relatively few priests could afford the cost of a full wardrobe of tailored vestments in every possible color.
Red is often kept for fasting seasons - except for the Russians, who have an interesting habit of wearing red vestments on Pascha. But more of that another time!
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Anyway, I find it curious, but don't mind it at all. Makes for a nice color array.
The Hierarchical DL was very good, but felt longer than it actually was. It only took about an hour and a half...I don't know why Iit felt a lot longer.
I did like the church overall. The Melkite church down the street is more beautiful aestheically, but the Antiochian church had a top-notch choire as Joe noted earlier.
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Alexis, I would have tried to join you but we are at Atlantic Beach, NC this week  . But, we'll get together for prayer and lunch soon. I applied to a librarian position at Piedmont College, Athens campus. The library director emailed me and wants to talk with me about the position. So, things look good so far. Joe
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Good luck with the librarian jobs. In a previous job setting, I had significant dealings with the public library community in Georgia. If you're looking at public jobs, PM me about them and I can give you some of the scoop on the folks there. Public libraries in Georgia are rife with goofy politics.
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It very much depends on the parish. Domilesean is right that they use Byzantine chant and the "Greek" usage in general. I n the vast majority of parishes, the priest's prayers (including part of the Anaphora) is silent, as opposed to some Slavic traditions that allow these to be read aloud. The congregation's responses may be in multiple languages, even in "convert" parishes: Arabic (could be quite a bit, but often in response to a litany and also as one of the three prayers during "Holy God"), Greek and occasionally Slavonic (usually limited to "Gospodi pomullui" in response to a litany). The more established parishes (such as you're likely to find in PA) typically have pews; a few may still have organs. Many Antiochian churches of whatever legacy have a large population of "converts," who will be most welcoming; and the "cradle/ethnic" parishes also tend to be warm to visitors, as they've become accustomed to non-Arabs/Greeks/Slavs investigating their Church. I hope you'll enjoy the visit! -----
Western Orthodoxy Blog [westernorthodox.blogspot.com]I sir worship in a Slavic setting and more often than not experience a pretty much silent anaphora...... and a silent epiclesis. As far as I know the only jurisdiction that has\ cart� blanche permission on using an entirely audible anaphora (in the Orthodox world in the USA)are the Antiochians.
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Good luck with the librarian jobs. In a previous job setting, I had significant dealings with the public library community in Georgia. If you're looking at public jobs, PM me about them and I can give you some of the scoop on the folks there. Public libraries in Georgia are rife with goofy politics. Hey thanks for the support. I did think about applying for a job with the Fulton County Library system. I had a good conversation with the library director at Piedmont College and he has invited me for an interview. So far, things are looking really good. Joe
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As far as I know the only jurisdiction that has\ cart� blanche permission on using an entirely audible anaphora (in the Orthodox world in the USA) are the Antiochians. Actually, I think this is standard in the OCA. The Antiochians typically have a partially silent Anaphora: words of institution, epiclesis, and other portions aloud but most "silently." -------
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As far as I know the only jurisdiction that has\ cart� blanche permission on using an entirely audible anaphora (in the Orthodox world in the USA) are the Antiochians. Actually, I think this is standard in the OCA. The Antiochians typically have a partially silent Anaphora: words of institution, epiclesis, and other portions aloud but most "silently." -------
Western Orthodoxy Blog [westernorthodox.blogspot.com]Silent to us would mean you would hear, "Singing shouting crying out..." And then, "Take eat..." .. and then to sing the We praise thee while the epeclesis is said. I'm not sure all the OCA says all the Anaphora prayers aloud. Really when it boils down to it, the priest is really to follow what his bishop tells him and we in the pews don't have any say about it.
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