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Nelson, Back at you brother. I don't understand your thinking.

My thinking is very simple. Glenn Beck is a talk show host who goes to extremes to help his ratings. It is great that he agrees with Pope Benedict but that still doesn't make him anything more than a talk show host. And I believe he is not a prophet nor does he have the prophetic gift,as you claimed. Simple, no?

You claim that Glen Beck is in the line of the Old Testament prophets and also the Holy Saints who lived on pillars. Which, is ludicrous, but we are all entitled to our opinions.

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For that matter I suspect that some of the posters here would be on the band wagon to have Jeremiah killed or the Stylites put in a mental health facility.

Totally uncalled for, and ridiculous.

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I'm still waiting to see anyone actually tell me what is wrong with what Beck said. I'm still to see some justification for attacking Beck and his comments, whatever you call them, while defending Jeremiah and the Stylites. I believe if you had lived in either period you would have been just as dismissive as you are concerning Beck.

Out of curiosity what is it about Beck's comments that make his prophetic words false? What standards does he abrogate?

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I've read and watched this thread from its inception. I can't understand how its title relates to anything that has been posted. I also fail to see how this is faith or theology, whether orthodoxy or orthopraxy.

I'm asking for a clarification to link the title to the dialogue. I'm also asking for a bit more civility. If we can't get both, I will close this thread.

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I'm as frustrated as you are. The theological question is quite simple. Can a true prophetic statement be made by someone who is not Catholic or Orthodox by membership? I.e., Beck is baptized Catholic even though mormonism is a heresy. Still, can God use whoever he wishes to use to speak a word of prophecy and does He? We've had some pretty strange examples of those God has used to utter His word. Take Balaam's Ass, or Jeremiah who was nearly killed by the authorities of his day. What of the stylites who did not exactly fit into preconceived categories?

A secondary question regards the nature of prophecy. We know that Saul prophecied while naked. We also know that Isaiah (I believe) walked the streets without clothing while prophecying. Then there is St. John the Baptist who ate locust and wild honey and wore strange clothing. Modern prophets have gone about barefoot without places to stay. The one infallible test of a prophet has always been this: Do his prophecies come true?

So, when a baptized Catholic, now fallen to Mormonism, states that Pope Benedict has spoken truly in some very significant subjects is that person considered to be speaking prophetically, even when some don't like the forum he uses?

These are Theological questions. The claim that some don't like him does not address the issue. The test for prophecy does. I do wonder how many of those who criticize Beck's personality have actually watched the video. I'm very happy that we can trust Jesus' words "He who is not against us is for us." Mark 9:40

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Originally Posted by Carson Daniel
I'm still waiting to see anyone actually tell me what is wrong with what Beck said. I'm still to see some justification for attacking Beck and his comments, whatever you call them, while defending Jeremiah and the Stylites. I believe if you had lived in either period you would have been just as dismissive as you are concerning Beck.

Out of curiosity what is it about Beck's comments that make his prophetic words false? What standards does he abrogate?

I watched the video. While I think it might be a bit exaggerated, I heard nothing I would consider objectionable. On the other hand, I see no reason to give him the label of prophet. I particular reject the comparison to Jeremiah.

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I watched the video. While I think it might be a bit exaggerated, I heard nothing I would consider objectionable. On the other hand, I see no reason to give him the label of prophet. I particular reject the comparison to Jeremiah.

Me too, that is what I object to. Glenn Beck, who can and does make good points, isn't a prophet and to compare him to the Saint prophets of the O.T. Is wrong, IMHO.

If I had been uncharitable in my comments I ask forgiveness.

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So, when a baptized Catholic, now fallen to Mormonism, states that Pope Benedict has spoken truly in some very significant subjects is that person considered to be speaking prophetically, even when some don't like the forum he uses?

The real question is this: does anyone who agrees with and says Pope Benedict has spoken truly a prophet or speaking prophetically? Or do they just happen to agree with a statement by a Pope of Rome? Beck agrees with Pope Benedict, good, still doesn't mean he is speaking prophetically. I agree with Pope Benedict. So, does that mean if I had a radio show and announced that Pope Benedict had spoken rightly about something that I am speaking prophetically or that I am a prophet? I would think not. It just means I agree with Pope Benedict.

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Going back to this week old thread, but anyone catch that Jon Stewart and Bill O'Reilly will be "debating" for a fundraiser? How is that possible if this is anything more than entertainment - for a good cause, mind you - but these folks are all entertainers!

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Well, out of all the "entertainers" out there, Mike Huckabee was one of the few that actually held an executive branch office in Governor of Arkansas, let alone, an executive branch in general. He tried back in '08 to get his point across, but that fell short. Although he's as fun to follow along with as Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly, imo.

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