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Originally Posted by mardukm
I have read many canons on marriage and not one of them seems to UNEQUIVOCALLY allow for what we Orthodox do: permit second and even third marriages. Given the clear testimony, apart from these mentionings of second/third marriages, that any marriage after the first is adultery, the concession for second/third marriages in the canons seems to refer only to those cases when one of the spouses HAS DIED.

Can any one refer to any canons of the undivided Church that CLEARLY allow for second/third marriages when both spouses are STILL ALIVE?

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St. Basil canon, accepted by the Quinisext and Seventh Ecumenical Councils:

CANON IX.

Our Lord is equal, to the man and woman forbidding divorce, save in case of fornication; but custom requires women to retain their husbands, though they be guilty of fornication. The man deserted by his wife may take another, and though he were deserted for adultery, yet St. Basil will be positive, that the other woman who afterward takes him is guilty of adultery; but the wife is not allowed this liberty. And the man who deserts an innocent wife is not allowed to marry.
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf208.ix.clxxxix.html
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf214.xvii.xi.html

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Wow! What a shocker.

Am I correct to state that the man whose first wife deserts him is allowed to remarry, but that if he does remarry, then the woman he marries is considered to be committing adultery? Then what does that make him? Equally an adulterer?

Doublespeak?

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Originally Posted by mardukm
I have read many canons on marriage and not one of them seems to UNEQUIVOCALLY allow for what we Orthodox do: permit second and even third marriages. Given the clear testimony, apart from these mentionings of second/third marriages, that any marriage after the first is adultery, the concession for second/third marriages in the canons seems to refer only to those cases when one of the spouses HAS DIED.

Can any one refer to any canons of the undivided Church that CLEARLY allow for second/third marriages when both spouses are STILL ALIVE?

Blessings,
Marduk

St. Basil canon, accepted by the Quinisext and Seventh Ecumenical Councils:

CANON IX.

Our Lord is equal, to the man and woman forbidding divorce, save in case of fornication; but custom requires women to retain their husbands, though they be guilty of fornication. The man deserted by his wife may take another, and though he were deserted for adultery, yet St. Basil will be positive, that the other woman who afterward takes him is guilty of adultery; but the wife is not allowed this liberty. And the man who deserts an innocent wife is not allowed to marry.
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf208.ix.clxxxix.html
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf214.xvii.xi.html

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Are there any Apostolic Fathers who approved of a second marriage after a divorce for whatever reason?

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