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I found an anti-catholic site [biblelightinfo.com](probably SDA) that says the pope claims to be lord/God in some writings.
How do we Catholics response to these claims?

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" . . . dominum nostrum papam . . ."

" . . . our lord the pope . . . " (translation)

"Dominum Deum Nostrum Papam"

Wenura Ravindu,

Welcome to the forum. We hope your time with us is spiritually beneficial.

I read Latin and the insertion of "God" in the text is dishonest. The original text and the parts taken out to be more clear in current script DO NOT insert the word "God" or "god" at all. This is just an anti-Catholic smear tactic used by some Evangelical Christians.

In the time that this text was written, it would have been normal to use the term "Lord" or "lord" for a bishop in Western practice. In fact, there is a current Anglican usage where a bishop in the English Church is addressed--when speaking to him/her personally--as "My Lord, Bishop."

In the text cited, a reference is made to "Our Lord (the) Pope." It is a matter of ecclesial good manners related to the time period.

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Additional comment: I went back to the site and looked at the three citations. The first two are in black print on white paper and appear to be legitimate sources. They also confirm my explanation above. The third is a red background. It appears to me to be some sort of forgery by someone not adept at the Latin language. The site explanation claims that the references to the Pope are abbreviated, but I don't buy it.

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Thank you for having me in here and for the explanation

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Originally Posted by Wenura Ravindu
How do we Catholics response to these claims?

I would go with, "hysterical laughter."


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