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The bishop-designate was ordained to the priesthood on May 3, 1975 and began serving on the faculty of Saint Francis College. From 1976 to 1980 he was assistant director of postulants for his Franciscan Order. During that time he also served in parishes of the Archeparchy of Pittsburgh.
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I was talking about the political reasons that we former Orthodox had for joining with Rome.They dont exist anymore.
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Slava Jesu Kristu,
Michael brings up two good points:
1) Does the philisophical approach of any of the Latin Orders necessarily conflict or enhance Byzantine ethos?
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2) How are we to view our current situation in view of past politics as we reclaim our Orthodoxy?
any ideas?
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Just to clear up a seeming discrepancy: Bishop-designate John Kudrick was born December 23, 1947 in Dunlo, PA. He entered the Third Order Regular of St. Francis in 1967. He attended St. Francis College in Loretto, PA where he received a Bachelor of Arts in Mathematics in 1970. He made perpetual profession of vows in 1972. Continuing his studies at Indiana State University, he received a Master of Science degree in math in 1975 and later in the same year of Master of divinity from St. Francis Seminary, Loretto. Father John was ordained to the priesthood in 1975 and began serving on the Faculty of St. Francis College as Assistant Professor and Director of Computer Services. He also served as director of postulants for his Franciscan order from 1976 to 1980 and ministered in the parishes of the Archeparchy of Pittsburgh. He was incardinated in the archeparchy in 1987 and served in several parishes, the latest being the Cathedral of St. John the Baptist in Munhall as protopresbyter. He has also been serving as administrator of the Archeparchy of Pittsburgh since the death of Metropolitan Archbishop Judson Procyk From a biosketch at http://www.eparchy-of-van-nuys.org/docs/newsletter-2002-XI-2.htm I don't know about Bishop John in particular, but the Kudricks in Dunlo (Cambria County  ) were(/are?) from St. Peter & Paul's BCC. I am not sure what MU is getting at with "We have no representation in the byzantine church. We have the fancy clothes and a better liturgy but no history ... ", but I suppose he will let us know.
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YES, LET'S PRAY FOR A MIRACLE!!!!!!
REMEMBER: OUR LORD SAID, "ASK AND YOU SHALL RECEIVE."
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Djs quoted:I am not sure what MU is getting at with
"We have no representation in the byzantine church. We have the fancy clothes and a better liturgy but no history ... ",
but I suppose he will let us know.
What I was trying to say is that we dont have our own teachings.If you want to learn about byzantine catholicism good luck trying to find more then 3 or 4 books.Our beliefs and practices come from the Orthodox church.We are under-represented in the Catholic church as a whole.I understand that we are a minority and we are definitely treated as one.I of course am speaking from the bit of knowledge that I do have and after consultation with others.Please excuse me of my ignorances.I on my own spirtual journey,(and I am speaking for myself!)have found out that the ethos of the latin church do conflict with those of the byzantine church and that a hybrid spirtuality causes conflict within myself.I dont see how one can be bi-ritual and represent his church to the fullest capability.In this age of everyone wanting unity I can understand how people may see this as positive.But wont two theologies negate eachother?I am not as educated as most of you on this forum and do not know all the technicalites of the history of the "Byzantine church",but what I have learned about our beliefs has all come from Orthodox published material due to a complete non-existence of our own teachings.From what I know almost all of our history lies within the Orthodox church.When it comes down to it our bishops do have have control over us,localy atleast.But who approves these bishops?Who has ULTIMATE authority over us? You guys can answer this I dont think I have to.So really who are we? Orthodox in communion with Rome?No way,an Orthodox Christian would never be in communion with Rome.Excuse me for my opinion which may even seem different from a couple of months ago but I have been learning alot about church history and the more I learn the less I want to do with Rome.I have read earlier on this site that when the Pope of Rome speaks we dont have to listen since he is speaking to Roman Catholics.Well I dont agree,I believe that if we are in communion with him we are under his authority,and if we are under his authority then I am one confused person trying to believe in two seperate theoligies.Pope JP2 is a great man who has great intentions but only one man in history was infallible.
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Dear Michael:
You are right to capitalize the "O" in Orthodox when you say that an Orthodox Christian would never be in communicion with Rome.
However, "orthodox" with a small-o, meaning "he who properly glorifies" shouldhave no problem being in communion with the Church of Rome.
As for being under the "authority" of the Pope, that, of course, depends upon your definition of authority.
If Authority means that the Pope can veto anything that the Holy Synods of the sui juris Churches do, I'm with you - let's get the heck out of here and go big-O Orthodox.
However, if authority is seen more of an authority of respect on certain doctrinal prononcements that are common to the entire Apostolic Tradition, then, I hope you would agree, communion with Rome is not all that bad.
The reality, of course, is probably somewhere in between. Rome does indeed meddle too much in the internal affairs of the Eastern Churches in communion with it, but this Pope has, at the very least, paid lip-service to the need to re-define the role of the Papacy in the universal Church.
Please know that your struggles are common to many of us, myself included. The history of the Church of Rome is replete with abuses of both ecclesiastical and political power. Perhaps the key is to kind a parish where you are "at home" regardless of jurisdiction. I don't know. It's hard.
Yours,
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