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Girls permitted to perform altar duties? ( The Hindu, March 27, 2006) Staff Reporter KOCHI: The Syro-Malabar Archdiocese of Ernakulam-Angamaly has taken a tentative step towards a break with the past to permit girls to serve at the altar in place altar boys. The head of the Archdiocese Cardinal Varkey Vithayathil has let parishes decide whether they can let girls to serve at the altar during the Mass. The ultimate decision will be taken by the parish priests in consultation with the parish councils, said spokesman for the Syro-Malabar Church Paul Thelekkatt here. What is important is the acceptability of the practices, he added. The permission comes in the wake of discussions at the Kerala Catholic Bishops' Council to let the various Catholic dioceses decide whether or not to use the services of girls at the altar. The Latin Church is still struggling with this, the Eastern Churches have no Tradition of this, yet the Syro-Malabar Church has decided to allow it. Why? There isn't a shortage of males in these Churches, there is infact plenty of male clergy and the permanent deaconate is still being reintegrated. The minor orders are almost non-existant. Yet before all else, this latinisation is passed without another thought. Why?
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I do not think this counts as a latinization, simply because it is a novelty in the Latin rite as well. There was never a history of female altar servers ever before the 70s/80s in the Latin Rite.
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They dont have a strong anti latinism movement in that Church so it seems. It appears to be new uniatism being brought in again to copy what ever latins do. When they take pride in their own Asian form of Christianity with it's very ancient tradition they will want these things to go.
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My apologies to the Thomas Christians for mentioning this, but it is, so to speak, "traditional" for the Syro-Malabar Church to break with tradition. They've been at it for centuries.
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Its just a matter of time before UGCC and the Ruthenian Churches have altar girls.
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Originally posted by Ray S.:
Its just a matter of time before UGCC and the Ruthenian Churches have altar girls. It already happened! Several years ago, there was a Ukrainian Catholic parish that had altar girls. I believe that this was initiated by the pastor and permitted by the bishop. The bishop came on his pastoral visit to the parish and celebrated the Divine Liturgy with altar girls serving. I know because I was there. This is no longer the case as the parish has a new pastor, and the eparchy has a new bishop.
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May I ask who the Bishop who permitted Altar Girls? If you feel safer, you can PM me.
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Originally posted by incognitus:
My apologies to the Thomas Christians for mentioning this, but it is, so to speak, "traditional" for the Syro-Malabar Church to break with tradition. They've been at it for centuries.
Incognitus Incognitus, What I find odd is that this is being perpetuated by the local Bishops, the earlier latinisations were forced by the Portuguese. This nonsense is being created by the locals. This is even after the Liturgy fiasco, the anti-Syriac/Aramaic language movement, and ignoring the Pope's call to return to authentic practices. How is this unilateral move a return to the Tradition? I suppose it is a relief that the Syro-Malabar Church hasn't yet turned into the Syriac Catholic Church in the diaspora - in otherwords a Roman Church with Syriac vestments and Liturgy - but it is only a few decades of self-destruction from doing so.
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We had some photos of 2 baptisms here not so long ago. One Syrian Catholic and the other Syrian Orthodox. The Catholics were very down market compared to the opposition. They have clearly not followed the instruction to return to their tradition as they were not even dressed the sameas the Orthodox.
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Dear Michael Thoma - Again my apologies, but it is the Syro-Malabar bishops (with some honourable exceptions) who have fought tooth and nail against the restoration of the Qurbana and other elements of the authentic tradition - and who have promoted the "Mass facing the people", unheard of in any Eastern Church, in the teeth of Rome telling them in no uncertain terms that they may not do this. Then they wonder why . . . but I'd better not get started. It's a textbook case of what happens when the oppressed take up self-oppression.
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May they turn back from the error of their ways!
Here in Philadelphia, I live but two blocks from a Malankara Church which is among the Oriental Orthodox. I've attended the Divine Liturgy there two or three times and have seen no such innovations.
As an aside, I add that I found their eucharistic celebration to be among the most joyous that I have ever attended!
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The Malankara Liturgy is indeed lovely. I envy you having it in such close proximity.
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From what I have read the innovation of using girls as altar servers began in 1994 within the Latin Rite...there was much turmoil with elevating women to the priesthood promoted by some French and German bishops...yes this is a painful break with tradition and has caused division within the Latin Rite. see http://www.adoremus.org/0302Altargirls.html james
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Originally posted by griego catolico: Originally posted by Ray S.:
[b] Its just a matter of time before UGCC and the Ruthenian Churches have altar girls.
Several years ago, there was a Ukrainian Catholic parish that had altar girls. I believe that this was initiated by the pastor and permitted by the bishop. The bishop came on his pastoral visit to the parish and celebrated the Divine Liturgy with altar girls serving.
I know because I was there.
This is no longer the case as the parish has a new pastor, and the eparchy has a new bishop. [/b]I've seen girls vested as servers in the UGCC parish in Munchen.   At least they spent most of the time outside of the sancutary (but seated in the first row of pews). Σώσον, Κύριε, καί διαφύλαξον η�άς από τών Βασιλιάνικων τάξεων!
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Originally posted by Ray S.:
Its just a matter of time before UGCC and the Ruthenian Churches have altar girls. I am a Deacon in the (Ruthenian) Eparchy of Passaic. The particular law of the Pittsburgh Metropolia, which was drawn up to comply with the new Eastern Canon Law of 1990, specifically prohibits the use of women in the altar.
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