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Now we know were the term Holy Smoke comes from! 
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Maybe it's just me, but I'm not seeing a link.
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Michael,
I'm swearing off whatever you and I drank last night. There is no link here, unless the hootch caused me to go blind.
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It does not get any better looking at the spot from this angle either. It's just not there.
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Originally posted by Pavel Ivanovich:
It does not get any better looking at the spot from this angle either. It's just not there.
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NIKA Guys - let's face it It's a Mystery
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Must be footage from the new "Franciscans Gone Wild!" video!   Gordo "There is no spoon." - Neo
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Dear Dr Eric, I believe that you are seeing something that is clearly not there!  Alex
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Well, if you must know, I once attended Vespers at the Benedictine Abbey of St. Andrew's in Valyermo, California (just north of the LA metro area).
Perhaps it is not very relevant that what was announced as "Vespers" included an Opera-Rock about Samson right before the prayer, but during the prayer itself, there was... you guessed it! Liturgical dance!
I guess whether you like it or not, these new expressions of worship are happening everywhere in the Latin Church.
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Why are you shocked at anything the Latins do?
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My only concern over this is that I see no indication of these photos being authentic. There is no indication where they were taken or anything in the photos to suggest that they truly are what they are reported to be.
Before I become too scandalized over what is allegedly shown I would have to have some indication that they are what they are said to be.
Call me a skeptic or cynical - but I just don't see anything that makes me think these photos might not be a hoax.
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For some reason, seeing this makes me want to play a Youngbloods album and protest against something.
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Originally posted by Memo Rodriguez:
Perhaps it is not very relevant that what was announced as "Vespers" included an Opera-Rock about Samson right before the prayer, but during the prayer itself, there was... you guessed it! Liturgical dance!
I guess whether you like it or not, these new expressions of worship are happening everywhere in the Latin Church. Memo, The issue at hand is not whether or not anyone likes these 'experessions of worship' but whether or not these 'experessions of worship' are allowed by the Magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church. In those cases where they are not allowed then they should not be happening no matter who likes them. If one accepts the authority of the Roman Catholic Church and the Roman Pontiff then one should follow the instructions and rules laid out by the Magisterium. To engage in or defend liturgical dance or whatever other innovative 'expression of worship', when it is contrary to the instructions of the Roman See is wrong. It is an act of disobedience and defiance. If one claims to be in Communion with and accepting of the authority of Rome then one should never engage in an act of defiance. If you say, "Here I stand" and "here" is in communion with Rome then you really can do no other.
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