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a friend emailed this article to me. It is such a sad statement of life, at least to me. Another way the darkness of this world seeks to mimic. Communion wafers newest Quebec snack craze scroll to the bottom of the page for the article http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20051227-040625-8439r
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Secular imitation seems to be appearing everywhere. The important thing is to know, remember, and witness to the Truth. Much of the world has forgotten how it came to be the way it is, and history is said to repeat itself when people don't learn its lessons. If that's the case, we may be in for some pretty tough times ahead as Christians, even tougher than we have seen recently.
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Hi,
I am not sure I follow this, but what is the problem?
Unconsecrated hosts are just that, bread, waffers.
Perfectly appropriate as snacks.
In Mexico the custom of selling the cut-outs (what's left over from the sheet after you cut the waffers) as snacks is older than I am.
So, I do not see any problem with it, and they actually are a very tasty snack.
Shalom, Memo
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Interesting, but you say what is left over after the cuts are made. By that, I think they are not in the round shape, rather like the dough that remains after you have cut a batch of cookies from it.
The thing that strikes me about the article is the fact they are putting emphasis on them being a communion wafer - not consecrated of course. In Poland they use a wafer, very similar to the communion wafer with a nativity scene stamped into it for the Christmas Eve dinner. Then it takes on a whole differnt aspect of life. There again, it is not refered to as a communion wafer.
If they had another name of them, as I think is the course in Mexico, it would be different. Really if someone likes the taste just to much on most ice cream cones have a very similar taste and appeal.
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"My son can eat a whole bag while he's watching TV," said supermarket manager Paul Saumure. "He's had more of them outside of church than he ever did inside one."
As a sign of increasing secularism, Montreal churches are being refitted as condominiums and religious statuettes are being sold as home decor items in antique shops. What a sad commentary on the state of affairs there. The paper-thin morsels made from flour and water hark back to when Quebec was one of the most devout Roman Catholic enclaves in North America and the wafers were seen only at holy communion. Which sums up what the other quotes point to. This would have never have happened in 1950's Quebec, because clearly it is disrespectful and mocking. The religious legacy of the province reduced to kitsch and snack food, which is essentially what all of this points to. Like Western Europe, I don't know what will happen there now that they've abandoned their Christian identity. The fact that Homosexuals can now marry there or you have stories like this [ news.yahoo.com] probably points to where things are heading. Andrew
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Ah, the name.
Yes, we would never refer to these snacks as "communion waffers" or "hosts".
They are cut-outs (recortes, in Spanish).
Shalom, Memo
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Which sums up what the other quotes point to. This would have never have happened in 1950's Quebec, because clearly it is disrespectful and mocking. The religious legacy of the province reduced to kitsch and snack food, which is essentially what all of this points to.
Andrew I agree. Isn't this what many in the secular society are trying to make of faith, a mockery? I sqw a short segment on the news about Holland, it is a mockery. Everything in that nation seems to be the opposite of what Christianity teaches. Yet, at one point it was a very Christian nation. It is in accepting the small things like this that doors are open wider. The EU is a classic example, where they only man on the council or governing body that was 'conservative' in the US terms was driven off because if his stance on homosexuality and abortion.
They are cut-outs (recortes, in Spanish).
Memo that makes sence. It is ashame to waist anything, if it is a bi-product of something else, it should be used somehow. There is no mockery there or mimicking at all, it is what it is.
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Dear Pani Rose you said:
" I sqw a short segment on the news about Holland, it is a mockery. Everything in that nation seems to be the opposite of what Christianity teaches."
I say:
I heard that they will start killing children that have illnesses, but that's not the worse. The Dutch are starting to wonder if it will lead to 'suicide' pills for people that cannot cope.
Can you imagine? Don't they realize that most of the people committing suicide are teenagers. Sweden already has probably the highest suicide rate in the Western world. What will happen when these 'children' who really don't know what in the world they are doing, happen to have a 'pill' handy?
Boy! They are really being led down a slippery slope.
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Zenovia I saw that too. It is mind boggeling. Is 49 I will never forget you, My people, I have carved you on the palm of My Hand, I will never forget you, I will not leave you orphaned, I will never forget My own. Would a mother forget her baby? Or a woman the child within her womb? Yet even if these forget, yes, even if these forget, I will never forget My own. Would a mother forget her baby? Or a woman the child within her womb?Do people think it will happen to someone elses child? What happens when it is their own child who takes that pill? Will they have no remorse? Is there so little value put on human life? If they look past abortions - to the living - they are saying there is no value in life. It is truly the absence of hope. Yet even if these forget, yes, even if these forget, I will never forget My own. Thank God the Lord says he will never forget. He also says woh to one of those who harms the hair on the head of his little one. So very sad 
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Mr. Gaston (FRENCH Canadian)may his champagne be flat till he repents...
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The previously mentioned article appears to be taken from a (Toronto) Globe & Mail article [ theglobeandmail.com] that is a bit more nuanced. Being a Montrealer, I was surprised to read about the "snack craze" in that wire story. As the notion of "snack craze" is absent in the Globe piece, I conclude that it was an erroneous conjecture made up by a headline writer. "Candies" made of unleavened bread have long been sold in these parts, but they have never been particularly popular.
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It is strange how people buy things as they become fashonable, even religious items. I can only assume that these people might just wonder about the religious significance of what they see when they actually look at their latest rosary fashion accessory or any other religious statue in their home. These items just might leada few people back to the faith or take a few who did not know Christ to meet Him for the first time. An old Russian priest said there was an old saying that the icons look after themselves. We were talking about stolen icons in Turkey and the old USSR and what happens to them when they get sold off all over the place. The Lord works in mysterious ways.
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Dear Friends,
Morally and spiritually, Quebec is on a downward spiral and has been for quite some time.
I don't know what it is about the French, and yes, I mean France too, that they get into such states of mind.
Perhaps they are of an extremely passionate nature or something?
N'est ce pas?
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Greeting to all. My mother used to have the large wafers sent to her here in the US from a friend in Germany every year prior to Christmas. In her home town of Wurzburg, GE, it is customary to make Nurnberger Lebkuchen using the wafer as a non-stick base since the Lebkuchen is a very fruit cake style of treat and will stick to a cookie sheet if the Oblaten are not utilized. These are the same large wafers that the Roman Catholic priest uses for Mass, and they are sold in the bakery stores and marked with approval for use in the Mass, and also as being Kosher! I realize some can be sensative to this, but it is just flat bread discs at this point, just like bread for prosphora is just plain leavened bread until it is handled by the priest. I mean no disrespect, but I view this in a very different light. Some may say that the bread is prayed over while being prepared and that is why it should not be used as food. I also pray over my cooking when I prepare it also, to ensure no one gets food poisoning or worse, but it is far from being sanctified. Happy New Year to all! Michael
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Yes, I must admit my Frenchie brother and sisters in Quebec are somewhat quacky - but help is on the way. Please read this story: Quebec government comes to Ukraine seeking potential emigres French-speaking Canadian province has unique solution to tackle declining population� by John Marone, Kyiv Post Staff Writer Jan 19 2006, 00:44 http://www.kyivpost.com/ If you know of any Carpatho-Rusyns (Carpatho-Ukrainians) who want to immigrate to 'La Belle Province' just contact the local Ukrainian Canadian Congress and they will get the paper work in order. Who knows - there may even some day be a Ruthenian Greek Catholic Exarchate in Quebec. I.F.
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