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I was seaching for a page to use as reference in regards to Mary as Theotokos and found this site. It seems to give a clear defination so I thought it would be a good reference.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary,_the_mother_of_Jesus#Theotokos_.28.22Mother_of_God.22.29
Both Roman Catholics and Orthodox make a clear distinction between such veneration (which is also due to the other saints) and worship which is due to God alone. Mary, they point out, is not in herself divine, and has only such powers to help as are granted to her by God in response to her prayers. Such miracles as may occur through Mary's intercession are ultimately the result of God's love and omnipotence. The term worship is used by some theologians to subsume both categories: sacrificial worship and worship of praise: Orestes Brownson in his book Saint Worship is a good example of that usage. Roman Catholicism distinguishes three forms of honor: "latria", due only to God, and usually translated by the English word adoration; "hyperdulia", accorded only to the Blessed Virgin Mary, usually translated simply as veneration; and "dulia", accorded to the rest of the saints, also usually translated as veneration. The Orthodox distinguish between worship and veneration but do not accept a sort of "hyper"-veneration only for the Theotokos.
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From: http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/orthodox_christianity/9990/2 The Orthodox Tradition makes distinction between: latria, the adoration given to Christ himself as Lord creator of all things (and to the bread and wine transubstantiated in the Body and Blood of the Lord); hyperdulia or superveneration, accorded to the Mother of God as Birth-giver of God, and veneration or honor, that is due to the saints on the basis of three connections with Christ.
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Dear Michael_Thoma, I have to tell you that your avatar is nice, but sooooo intimidating! I feel as if a Hierarch is speaking every time you post!  Might I be so bold as to ask if you are a hierarch, or are you just a lay person like the most of us?  Considering the avatar, it may help me relate to you and place you if you told us, though you are certainly under *NO* obligation WHATSOEVER to do so, and it will not offend me if you choose not to.  In Christ, Alice
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To All,
Our Theotokos is and was the means to achieve 'heaven' for without her willingness and purity in giving us the 'Word made flesh' we could never have been able to cross the barrier and go from our sinful existance into a more heavenly one. Therefore every saint goes through Mary in order to achieve full 'theosis'.
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Dear Alice,
While my avatar is His Beatitude, the late Metropolitan (Thirumeni) Mar Ivanios. I am but a lowly layman - "I work for a living," as they say in the Army.
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Dear Michael_Thoma, Cool!  His Eminence was quite an imposing figure! I am glad to know that you are just a lay person and not a Metropolitan! :p In Christ, Alice
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