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I think a celibate Priesthood in the West is an integral part of the theology of Priesthood. It's not doctrinal, but it is theological (not merely disciplinary).
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Thanks for highlighting this article by a married Eastern Catholic, Subdeacon Adam DeVille, who knows the ins and outs of priestly celibacy and the "pitfalls" of a married priesthood in the Roman Church!
He is, also, a well-regarded member of this Forum.
Priestly celibacy versus a married priesthood has occupied a good part of the discussions here at the ByzForum since I can remember.
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I agree with you. A debate about altering a thousand years of theological tradition is an undertaking that cannot be approached without the utmost care and discernment.
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This is a topic that comes up here with great regularity. a recent example of this type of discussion I'm sure if you use the search facility you will find many more examples . My own feeling is that a discussion on whether the RC Priesthood should be solely for celibate men is a topic for that Church to discuss
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This is a topic that comes up here with great regularity. a recent example of this type of discussion
I'm sure if you use the search facility you will find many more examples .
My own feeling is that a discussion on whether the RC Priesthood should be solely for celibate men is a topic for that Church to discuss I know this has been addressed elsewhere on this forum, but I posted the link simply because the article was from the perspective of married EC clergyman. Of course it is a matter for the clergy of my particular Church but a non-polemical outside perspective of such issues are useful to the debate.
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I very much enjoyed this part of Adam's article: One saintly Ukrainian Catholic bishop, the late and much beloved Isidore Borecky of Toronto, was wont to say that he had absolute confidence in his married priests because a wife, he said, is a man's bishop, metropolitan, patriarch and pope all in one. A wife would keep the priest in line, and daily keep an eye on him, in a way a bishop -- often hundreds of miles away -- never could. This is so important a role that the Eastern churches, which allow married men to be ordained priests, have a unique title for it: presbytera (Greeks) or pani matka (Ukrainians) or matushka (Russians). I could not agree more...Viva il Mama! Gordo
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Yes, a great quote, but it loses something in translation without hearing it from Kyr Isidore of blessed memory, the hand gesturing, the accent... 
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The best part of the article was Adam stating at the end that allowing married priests is not a panacea, he is absolutely right and if ordination of married men is ever allowed in the Latin church they will find the problems have not gone away (although they might be mitigated slightly).
Otherwise I found the article to say pretty much nothing. It does not draw on his experience as a married cleric, but repeats a lot of the typical excuses one reads for not having married priests.
One of the worst is the comment that the Eastern churches are suffering shortages too. A totally irrelevant comment because the situations are not comparable, but the reading public might never pick up on that.
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