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Interesting read:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/07/islams_global_war_against_chri.html

http://www.dhimmi.org/

Eddie

According to terrorism expert Yehudit Barsky, over 80 pct of the Mosques in the United States are now Wahhabist. Add to that the Pew Report that found that 26 pct of Moslems in the US between the ages of 18-29 had some degree of support for suicide bombers, and you can see the writing on the wall. Terrorism is coming here in a big way.

And we are too stupid, lazy and politically correct to do anything about it. We need the heavenly hosts to help with this one I fear.

The Saudis are investing money in exporting their conservative version of Islam and groups with pro-terrorist ideologies in order to keep terrorism out of their own country.

I know this because the Saudis are now paying to build mosques is Chiapas (a southern region in Mexico with a Muslim minority), the Islamic Center follows the Wahabbist trend in Islam.

It is not just about terrorism. It is debunking anything Christian in the West. Between Islam and the ACLU, Christianity and Western culture is up for grabs. Universities are already putting in foot-washing stations to accomodate Muslim students without any protest from the ACLU.

What happened to the Byzantine Empire will probably happen to this country. Give it time. Are you ready?

Eddie

stupid - maybe
lazy - perhaps
politically correct - sometimes
greedy for oil - always

I disagree that Islam and the ACLU are out to destroy Christendom. Most Muslims are oridinary people living their lives. Most ACLU folks I know are trying to insure basic civil liberties. Yes, there are extremists in those groups. There are extremist Christians and conservatives too. But, most folks aren't extremist. Most folks are ordinary and peaceful.

I reject the clash of civilizations thesis. Actually, I think the world has to get beyond that idea or we really will destroy ourselves. I think instead that the war against terroism is against the fanatics who would attack and destroy civilizations that are free and peaceful.

Just my two cents.

-- John

This is naive talk. You made no mention of why tax dollars are being used to accomodate Muslim students, but not Christians. While they are accomodating Muslims, the Christians are not allowed to put up Nativity scenes on public property. Tax dollars are only to be spent to aid the Muslim religion. No ACLU lawyer blowing the whistly on "Separation of Church and State" - you see the Islamic religion don't have 'churches'. In other towns they Muslims are complaining against church bells. They want them stopped. Once they make Christianity only an inside the building religion, then they will place legal demands on you. These aren't just terrorists. These are people who are commited in the long term to dominate and extinguish the Christian West. I went to school with them. Thta is what they told me. Christians were commissioned to baptize all people. But they take their religion more seriously.

Do you want to live your faith like those Christians in the MIddle East? Indonesia? the Sudan? Egypt? Lebanon?

One day they woke up and found the whole world Arian, the next day they woke up Muslim. You're next.

Eddie

Dear John,

I tend to disagree with you. The Muslims do want to 'convert' us, and do the 'will' of Allah...and that is to make everyone fall under sharia law. That does not mean they are terrorists, but they do follow their leaders blindly, so one can only assume they will not do anything to hinder what their leaders want.

As for the ACLU, it does want to destroy Christianity indirectly. The members are highly secular, and everything evil to them is, and has been caused by religions. We can never place extremist Christians in the same catagory as extremist Muslims. I cannot imagine a Christian religious leader saying that Christ wants us to kill others...but Allah certainly does.

This does not mean that we must become Islamophobic. That would be rediculous, but that they are starting to demand certain rights in this country, does frighten me. The Eastern Roman Empire did not succomb to Islam overnight. It took a couple of centuries for it to be conquered. Byzantine Emperors eventually began to marry their daughters, or sisters to sultans, and so on and so forth.

It is not for anything that Dodi Fayez' father believes that the British secret service killed Princess Diana and his son. The British were frightened silly that she would have a child, and that the half brother or sister to the future king, would be a Muslim. Of course that does not mean that they did kill them, but she mentioned her fear of the men in grey.

I don't doubt for a moment though that Dodi's father wanted him to marry her for exactly that reason...to have a child that would be a Muslim, and thereby connect the royal family to the Muslims....just the way it was done in the Near East. The fear has become so great in Spain, that intermarriage between Spanish women and Muslim men is now being discouraged.

The Muslims are not stupid. They realize that Christianity is dying in the West, and how they were able to overtake the Eastern Roman Empire, and are copying it big time. They probably consider it the 'will' of Allah. Saudi Arabia, and it's oil money are big players in this. They are the one's building the grand mosques throughout the world, and we are letting them without asking for churches to be built in Muslim lands. They are also buying up land in Spain. Boy they must consider us stupid. Notice how they are not using that money to relieve the poverty in the Islamic lands. Could it be that they realize that poverty produces terrorists?

The elite in Jordan speak openly about restoring the Caliphate, and how Spain was taken from them unjustly, and that they are the true inhabitants of that area, and so on and so forth.

All in all though, I believe taking over Western Europe will not be easy. The Europeans are still ethnocentric, and will not let their historic lands be overtaken so easily. They are tough people, or Europe wouldn't be Europe. Byzantium was different. It was a conglomerate of all peoples, religions and races...kind of like us. We in America fortunately, are still having children, and our population is growing. We also have the Hispanics coming into this country, and they are Christians. We also have immigrants from Russia and the Far East. Besides, we all have guns...Hee, hee, hee! As someone once told me years ago, the Russians will never invade America, because they know that they can't conquer a country where everyone has a gun. I think the Muslims realize that too. It ain't gonna be easy.

God Bless,

Zenovia

Islam must be viewed by the actions of the radical Muslims. They are the ones who attacked Constantinople, overran North Africa, conquered Spain and crossed the Pyrenees, attacked Italy more times than can be counted, subjugated Orthodox believers for centuries, and attempted to invade Vienna.

As I have repeated ad nauseaum Charles Martel, Queen Isabella and King Jan Sobieski showed how to deal with radical Muslims.

Islam is no religion. It is an ideology that has much in common with Marxism. The Alla of Islam is a fanatic who demands total submission. This God is not a God of love who desires all to be with Him for eternity, but a "god" who demands blood, just as the Marxist "state" demanded blood.

September 11 should have been a wake up call to the USA. Sadly, it was not.

I have begun to pray for the grace of martyrdom. I think it is is coming, and perhaps in my life.

Brother Ed

Dear Eddie,

There is something that truly bothers me, and no doubt the Europeans to a certain extent. At least the one's that are able to recognize and realize it.

In France and some of the Northern European countries, the local police are not allowed to enter the Muslim area's. In other words, those area's are not now under the jurisdiction of the country they live in.

I guess in a way, the natives don't care, since it saves them tax dollars, but they should. Those area's are probably now under sharia law, and therefore have become Muslim lands. Now according to the Muslims, once a place becomes Muslim, it must remain Muslim, or become Muslim again. So in that sense, it is not only the Balkans and Spain that is considered part of Islamic land, but parts of Belgium, France, the Netherlands, Sweden, and who knows where else. This is the real reason Israel is continuously at war. That land belongs to Islam, and the Palestinians are not allowed to settle themselves anywhere else in the world, in order to reclaim what was taken from them.

The Muslims believe that what one suffers is considered their 'fate'. If someone happens to live in a place that is poverty stricken and/or being persecuted, they must suffer rather than leave. I also recall a Pakistani being asked by a reporter why he considers himself under persecution. He answered that wherever they are not in the majority, they consider themselves persecuted.

By that reasoning, all the Muslims in Europe and the U.S. are under persecution and must become the majority.

Just a few things to ponder.

God Bless,

Zenovia

Thankyou, this is a very good comment on the situation.

Eddie and Zenovia:

I have to agree with you two 100%. The only question I have is how you managed to resist being brainwashed into being "politically correct" about Islam. With the constant media barrage about "the religion of peace," I thought there were no others who saw this for what it really is. But, thanks be to God that you have seen the situation clearly and can articulate it for the benefit of others.

In Christ,

BOB

Dear Theophan,

There are many prejudiced Americans out there, that are simply looking for some cause. By emphasizing that not all Muslims are terrorists, we are keeping them from attacking the Muslims. Also our government needs cooperation from Muslims in order to fight terrorism. Not only from Muslims within this country, but more so from Muslim countries. If we do anything to arouse prejudice against Islam, we have lost them, and our safety.

So we must be aware, yet not react in anyway that would be detrimental to our safety as well as to our economy.

God Bless,

Zenovia