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Check this out:
http://www.cts-online.org.uk/Files/CTS%20Bible%204pp_Layout%201.pdf

This is called the New Catholic Bible, published by the Catholic Truth Society in Britain. It is the 1966 Jerusalem Bible with these changes:

"Yahweh" is replaced by "Lord" through out the text;

It contains the 1963 Grail Psalms instead of the JB.

Looks cool. I might get a copy.

Joe

You can order a copy through Amazon UK if you have an Amazon account. Just be prepared to pay about 6 pounds in shipping and it will ship in 4-6 weeks.

Joe

This is awesome! I currently own a Jerusalem Bible, and I have two complaints about it:

1) It uses Yahweh instead of Lord (too distracting to read).
2) The Psalms aren't in my favorite translation, which is the...1963 Grail Psalms!

You know I'm going to buy it now - thanks so much!

I just ordered one. I will probably make it my second bible, behind the new Orthodox Study Bible coming out. And then the King James version for #3 of course (you can take the boy out of the baptist, but you can't take the baptist out of the boy).

Joe

Joe,

Possibly dumb question: did you order it via amazon.co.uk, and if so, do they ship to the U.S. and take American credit cards?

(As you can see, I've not had much experience ordering from foreign websites).

Short answer, yes. I used my amazon.com account and everything went through as far as I can tell. If I get some message from them saying that they can't sell to me, I'll let you know.

Joe

Lance,

VERY, very cool. I love the Jerusalem Bible, although I tend to favor the use of the original Hebrew names.

Here is an interesting article on YHWH:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragrammaton

I too will make a purchse next time I'm in London visiting the CTS bookstore outside of Westminster Cathedral. Last time I spoke with one of the folks at the store, they mentioned that they are trying to set up CTS in the States as well.

God bless,

Gordo

Does it distinguish between different uses of the divine name? Or just YHWH?

Terry

Terry,

Don't know, the brochure simply states it replaces Yahweh with Lord, in keeping with recent Vatican directives.

I would like to find out if it restores some deleted passages, such as the angel stirring up the water in John ch. 5, and the phrase "the Son of Man, who is in heaven," in John 3.13. Also, that it replaces "highly favored one" with "hail, full of grace" in Luke ch. 1. Those are non-negotiable items for me, which is why I now use the Douay-Rheims or Confraternity Bibles even over any RSV edition.

I plan to order one soon, but I do not think it will replace my Douay-Confraternity as my first string bible.

Blessings,

Lance

It is cool, Gordo, I will order one as soon as appropriate for me! I look forward to it.

Joe,

Can you tell us what the shipping cost was?

Blessings,

Lance

shipping 6.98 pounds (about 15 U.S. dollars?)

Joe

Actuakly I like the use of Yahweh, as it is the proper name ( well, as closley as we an reconstruct it) and gives a nice touch I thought.

Then again I use a Cambridge 1611 Authorised Verison, AKA, thre King James, with Apocrypha. ( I know, I know, Deuterocannon).

So who am I to complain?

I think I might have that same edition of the KJV. I prefer LORD to the spelling out of the divine name because I think that the Jewish tradition in this matter is on the mark. Also, for me it highlights the fact that God's inner essence, nature is unknowable and indescribable.

Joe

Agree with Joe on the Divine Name.

As for a KJV with Apocrypha, one can easily obtain the excellent Third Millenium Bible which is the 1611 KJV with Apocrypha, and which updates only the most obscure or unintelligible wording of the KJV.

The Third Millennium Bible may be purchased here: www.tmbible.com [tmbible.com]

No Lance! Don't tempt me! My OCD (not to be confused with Order of Discalced Carmelites) is going out of control! Most folks with OCD have a problem with germs, my problem (or at least one of them)is with collecting bibles. My wife would have preferred the germ mania.

Joe

Joe, wait till the period running up to Pascha, they will have a 2 for 1 sale. My friend and I got ours that way; we ordered 2 and thereby got ours for half price...

The Third Millinium Bible also prodices the Bible in Paragrpah FOrm, instead of in Verse, as does he TRaditional KJV. This doens't affect translaiton fo course, but my problem with it is that as a Dyslexic, I fidnm the Broken Verse format easier to read.

Other than rejectign the poor translaitonal choices in the modern "Dynamic Equivolence" Bibles, and other defects, one of the greatest benifits of ny KJV is that it retaisn the BRoken VEse format, which ti me is simpel to read.

THe Paragrapg form , though many love it, render sit harder.


Also, th Paragrpah form makes swift verse lookup difficult.

Wow, the CTS New Catholic Bible must be pretty popular. I went to order it today at amazon.co.uk, and they are already completely out of stock.

Perhaps CTS didn't realize that there would be demand for it here in the States.

I just found a used copy to purchase

Joe

Wow, these are exactly the changes I would make. I never like using the name of God and have always loved the grail psalms which are the most beautiful I have encountered.

The only other change I would make to the JB is the layout on the page. Previous version did not use columns which make the lines very long and hard to read. I hope they made that change in the layout, too.

Here's a sample page from their .pdf:
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IT looks like the notes are fairly in-depth as well.

joe

You know, I still like the old Confraternity Bible. I use it all of the time.

For a while I got much too involved interiorly with having to have the absolute best Catholic english version of the Bible. After much prayer and consultation with some of the most highly respected Catholic scripture scholars in the world over many months I have settled on the New Jerusalem Bible as my primary bible for both study and prayer. I have all the other versions to use for reference if I need them but I will stick almost completely with the NJB. I could very easily run myself ragged looking for the "perfect bible" so, I am now very much at peace with this decision.
One highly respected biblical scholar told me that using any bible translation is like kissing your wife through a handkerchief. Good analogy I think.
Blessings and a Happy Thanksgiving to all!
Silouan, Mary's monk

I also value the New Jerusalem Bible. I recently bought the RSV 2nd Catholic Edition, and it's superb.

One reason that I prefer the NJB besides the translation is that there is usually room to make my own notes in the margins; points made that raise particular insights. I read recently a book entitled "Elizabeth Seton's Two Bibles". There were many photocopies of pages from her bibles. The pages were filled with underlinings and markings of points that were unique to her and her faith journey. I like that! Kind of like a spiritual, biblical diary.
I am under the impression that the most accurate version in English is the New American Standard Bible, produced by the Lockman Foundation. I do enjoy this translation very much except that it does not include the Deutero-canonicals.
I, too read to RSV-CE 2nd Edition but find the print too small for these old eyes and there is no place to make my own notes and put my observations. So, until something "better" comes along, its the NJB for me.
Silouan, Mary's monk and certainly no biblical scholar

Yes, it can be quite obsessive, and I have been that way. That is why I now try to concentrate on just 1 or 2 versions, and use the rest of my bibles for simply reference.

I have recently received my copy of the CTS New Catholic Bible. (It was briefly available on Amazon's UK site, and I snatched up a copy).

PROS:
- I love the Jerusalem Bible translation, and changing "Yahweh" to "the LORD" is a great improvement! It makes it much more readable.
- The Grail Psalms are quite beautiful.
- The font used is a good choice; it is very readable and soft on the eyes. The layout too is well-done.
- There is a great chart in the back which shows, in biblical order, when each passage is read in the (latin) liturgical cycle - both for Mass and the Office of Readings. This is quite nice, as you can read a particular Biblical passage, then ask, "when is this read in the Church's liturgical cycle?" and find it easily.

CONS:
- The Commentaries, both before each book and in the footnotes, are still infected by an overemphasis on source criticism, and leans to more liberal interpretations (although they do question the JEDP hypothesis). It's nowhere near as bad as the NAB, however.
- The Bible is a bit small. I got the Presentation Edition, and I was surprised by it's size. I think it would have been better had they made it an inch or too taller and wider.

But overall, I'm very pleased with this Bible, and have already made it my primary daily reading Bible.

I just got my copy and I'm pleased with it too. Right now, I use it with the Third Millenium Bible and will eventually use it with the Orthodox Study Bible when it comes out.

JS