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Hello my Brothers and Sister is Christ. Well, I have been looking at this forum for a few days and I have been enriched with a great deal of knowlege by reading many of your posts. I am of spanish decent, and I began looking around the web due to partly 2 issues. I wanted to know more about the Easter rite, and why they were Catholics, and also out of my curiosity about your priests being able to get ordained if they were already married. I happen to be one of those individuals that when I was young, I wanted to be a priest but when I finally went to school found a wife instead...now am about to discern to be a deacon and I feel the Lord opening my mind...

From the intellectual perspective, it became very clear to me that I needed to do some more research, but when I actually saw a mass on the Web, what struck me right away, was how beutiful everything in the mass was AND how it was so much like the mass that I grew up with while living in Puerto Rico in my youth.

Well, this weekend I look forward to going to mass to experience it all real time. Questions:
Are there any Latinos that share in the section of our your Eastern faith? Are there any masses that are in the Byzantine tradition but in spanish? Please let me know if there are any on the web that I might be able to look at and learn from. Your Brother In Christ,

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Pedro,

Bienvenidos to the ByzCath board! There are others who are Spanish or Latin American here, including Memo, Francisco, and Remie.

Congratulations on your curiosity about the Eastern Catholic Churches (technically, they are Churches instead of "rites", and most of them use the Byzantine rite, although some Eastern Catholic Churches do not).

Eastern Catholics are fully Catholic, and are Catholic because they feel it is necessary to be in communion with the Bishop of the Eternal City, the See "from which no errors can come."

In the Latin Church (Roman Catholic Church), priestly celibacy has been the requirement for centuries. This, however, isn't the case when it comes to the Eastern Churches. It's not part of authentic Eastern tradition to have mandatory celibate clergy. This is why there are married Eastern Catholic priests.

Perhaps, at the end of this discovery/journey, God will call you to become an Eastern Catholic priest?! smile

Here's the Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom (the normal liturgy for each Sunday morning) in Spanish: http://www.byzantines.net/liturgy/spanishliturgy.htm

God bless you on your journey to discover more about the Eastern Churches in communion with the Holy Father. Buena suerte, hermano!

En Cristo,
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"Are there any Latinos that share in the section of our your Eastern faith?
In Latin America there many Byzantine-Rite Christians of Arab-syrian descent, specially in Argentina and Brazil (but also in Mexico). Most of them are Antiochian Orthodox, but some are Melkite (Byzantine Catholic).

The Exarchate of Mexico, a diocese of the Orthodox Church in America, is made up 100% of ethnic Mexicans. The Greek Orthodox Church has some congregations here, including faithful of Greek descent as well as "pure" Mexicans.

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"Are there any masses that are in the Byzantine tradition but in spanish?"
In Mexico, the Divine Liturgy (the Byzantine Mass) is always celebrated in Spanish with the exception of some parts that are sung in Greek.

I don't think there are Byzantine Catholic parishes with full services in Spanish in the U.S.A, but there are some Orthodox parishes where the Divine Liturgy (the byzantine mass) is celebrated in Spanish. The OCA Catherdral of Dallas has the D. L. in Spanish the second sunday of the month, and there's a mission in Dallas, served by a monk from the Exarchate of Mexico, with all services in Spanish.

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Remie! I don't know how I forgot you!! It was totally unintentional!

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by griego catolico:
[QB][QUOTE]Originally posted by ChristTeen287:
[QB]Pedro,

>>Bienvenidos to the ByzCath board! There are others who are Spanish or Latin American here, including Memo, Francisco, and Remie. <<

Don't forget me, Griego catolico! smile

The Ruthenian Catholic parishes in the Southwest do have Latino parishioners. The parishes in California certainly do have Latinos in their congregations.

There is also the Melkite parish in the state of Illinois that has a large Latino congregation. If I am not mistaken, a Melkite priest of Latino descent celebrates Divine Liturgy at that parish.

Yes, I agree that the Byzantine Divine Liturgy certainly does remind me of the reverence and joy that I find in Spanish language Roman-rite Masses.

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Don't forget me, Griego catolico!
Gosh you Latinos are comin' by the dozens! wink

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Peter,

Aqu� le presento otra versi�n de la liturgia divina en espa�ol de ROCOR (la iglesia ortodoxa rusa fuera de Rusia).

Aunque la iglesia es ortodoxa, es posilbe que las oraciones le ayuden.

http://www.fatheralexander.org/booklets/spanish/liturgy_s_e.htm

Tambi�n le mando un enlace para las v�speras en espa�ol.

http://www.fatheralexander.org/booklets/spanish/visperas_mayores.htm

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Also, for anyone who might be interested, here is the Divine Liturgy in Italian.

http://digilander.libero.it/ortodossia/Litourgia.htm

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This site contains a lot of useful information about Eastern catholicism, Orthodoxy and Oriental Orthodoxy, and liturgy, and vestments, etc. in Spanish.

http://www.geocities.com/pro_ortodoxia/

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Originally posted by griego catolico:

Don't forget me, Griego catolico! smile

The Ruthenian Catholic parishes in the Southwest do have Latino parishioners. The parishes in California certainly do have Latinos in their congregations.

There is also the Melkite parish in the state of Illinois that has a large Latino congregation. If I am not mistaken, a Melkite priest of Latino descent celebrates Divine Liturgy at that parish.
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Not only Latino parishioners, but Latino clergy as well. Fr R. Anthony Hernandez serves St Basil the Great, Los Gatos, CA (Ruthenian). In Phoenix,AZ, Fr Hugo Soutus serves the Dormition of Mary Ukranian Catholic Church. Fr Hugo and his wife are from the Fatherland - Argentina. Least of all is yours truly from the proCathedral of St Stephen the Proto-Martyr (Ruthenian), Phoenix, AZ.

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Hello:

I also want to welcome Peter.

Since ChristTeen287 was already kind enough to post a link to the Spanish translation made by this unworthy sinner, I'll just add that in addition to the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, I also have translations of the Liturgy of the Presanctified, the Service of Forgiveness, the Akathist to Our Lady and the ceremony of Matrimony/Crowning.

In the works is Alex's magnificent Akathinst to Our Lady of Guadalupe (uh... the Mexican one that is)

I do hope your participation in this forum and the knowledge of the Eastern traditions of our Church will help you to find better ways to serve the Lord God.

Welcome again.

Shalom,
Memo.


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