|
1 members (1 invisible),
361
guests, and
77
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Forums26
Topics35,404
Posts416,800
Members6,004
| |
Most Online3,380
Dec 29th, 2019
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 510
Member
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 510 |
X. B!
C. I. X!
Why? The spirit of the law is lost with this exaggeration to keep the letter. What is the alternative if a big cup is not available? Multiple altars for tandem consecrations per Liturgy? Multiple temples otherwise empty for a one a day spiritual vitamin? Almost like a lost chapter from GULLIVER�S TRAVELS. If there was to be a Divine Liturgy at Yankee Stadium how many gallon cup would you suggest? Would a truck in the Entrance be acceptable? Putting a moratorium on the number of participants at a Eucharist would be more realistic. Yah, limit the number who can worship... or was that already done "Two or three".
Don�t say I�m irreverent nor complain President Bush manipulates executive powers. Honestly WWJD? (what would Jesus do?)
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,131
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,131 |
I prefer to consecrate the Precious Blood in as many chalices as are needed What happened to one bread, one cup? Is this common in the Eastern Catholic churches? We're not permitted to do this at all! Whose "we"? I am guessing you are not Greek? As Father alluded: The Greeks and others are not so scrupulous in the matter; if they expect many to Holy Communion, they will simply put a suitable amount of wine in a suitable number of chalices (with a few drops of water in each, of course), and carry them all in the Great Entrance, taking care to set each one directly on the �ntimension.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,665 Likes: 7
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,665 Likes: 7 |
For the members of the Russian Church:
Where/how does one store such an extraordinary large chalice and diskos? and how/where does purification take place?
Another thought which came to mind - Instead of using a ladle, has the creation of a spigoted or spouted chalice been considered?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 510
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 510 |
X. B.
C. I. X!
My recent thought is what does one use for a lance, a lance?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 510
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 510 |
P. S.
What to use for the air (vale)? The Good Friday plachanytcha (shroud)?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,028
Member
|
|
OP
Member
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,028 |
I suppose that it is possible. However, I've seen it done many times at Hierarchal Liturgies and it is done very, very carefully and I've not seen a single drop spilled ever. I must say that Orthodox seem to be much more careful of profaning the Body and Blood of Christ than do typical Roman Catholics in America. This is my own observation. I'm sure it's different in the Philippines and elsewhere in the Catholic world.
Fr David Straut Wish it were different in my country, but alas, no.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,564 Likes: 1
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,564 Likes: 1 |
Prester John writes: We're not permitted to do this at all! Obedience is an important virtue, and nowhere else so much as in matters concerning the Eucharist. So by all means do as the Bishop requires. And please respect those who also do as their Bishops direct, even though this may result in a different practice. Christ is Risen! Fr. Serge
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 250
Byzantine Secret Service Member
|
|
Byzantine Secret Service Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 250 |
Now you why the Russian Church only has either basso-profundo deacons or tenors. After carrying around a chalice like that, I would think the deacon would be a tenor for a while until after the hernia operation. Also no one in the photo has a lean girth. Maybe if one has to take the sacraments like that on a regular basis, one's girth would be expanded. 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,595 Likes: 1
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,595 Likes: 1 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 250
Byzantine Secret Service Member
|
|
Byzantine Secret Service Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 250 |
Also, I hope no deacon is driving for a few hours after doing the ablutions on that chalice!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,595 Likes: 1
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,595 Likes: 1 |
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm now there you have a very very good point 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 250
Byzantine Secret Service Member
|
|
Byzantine Secret Service Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 250 |
X. B.
C. I. X!
My recent thought is what does one use for a lance, a lance? A blessed chain saw with a three-bar cross on it? Can you imagine being in the congregation during proskomedie when you hear the holy chain saw being revved up? It might put a tad bit of a damper on that prayerful moment.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,373
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,373 |
Is it real or Photo Shop?
X.B.! B.B.!
Ung
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 250
Byzantine Secret Service Member
|
|
Byzantine Secret Service Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 250 |
Is it real or Photo Shop?
X.B.! B.B.!
Ung Definitely the real thing
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 787
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 787 |
Also no one is the photo has a lean girth. Maybe if one has to take the sacraments like that on a regular basis, one's girth would be expanded. Having some knowledge of the Bishops involved, I would say that Archbishop Kyrill of San Francisco (the Hierarch on the extreme right) is a thin man. Fr David Straut (of wide Archpriestly girth)
|
|
|
|
|
