The Byzantine Forum
Newest Members
Annapolis Melkites, Daniel Hoseiny, PaulV, ungvar1900, Donna Zoll
5,993 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
1 members (NathanJA), 395 guests, and 36 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Latest Photos
St. Sharbel Maronite Mission El Paso
St. Sharbel Maronite Mission El Paso
by orthodoxsinner2, September 30
Holy Saturday from Kirkland Lake
Holy Saturday from Kirkland Lake
by Veronica.H, April 24
Byzantine Catholic Outreach of Iowa
Exterior of Holy Angels Byzantine Catholic Parish
Church of St Cyril of Turau & All Patron Saints of Belarus
Forum Statistics
Forums26
Topics35,393
Posts416,749
Members5,993
Most Online3,380
Dec 29th, 2019
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 3 of 6 1 2 3 4 5 6
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 510
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 510
C. I. X.

A friend sent me these news clips. This first one shows the Ecumenical Patriarch at the Kyiv airport, Pacheska Lavra (Cave Monastery) and Sophia Sabor (XI c Sophia Cathedral with the Ukrainian president and his US wife.

http://www.1plus1.ua/video/391/

If a picture is worth a thousand words it was interesting even for those who know no Ukrainian. On the other hand this next clip of the arrival of His Beatitude to the Kyiv airport will be of more interest with those who know Ukrainian.

http://news.1plus1.ua/ukrayina/patriarh-varfolomii-i-pribuv-v-ukrayinu.html

News in the making on the FORUM.

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 510
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 510
C. I. X.

Found a third treasure (how Ukrainian in threes). Through the streets of Kyiv, at the sight for the outdoor Liturgy under Oranta and praying for the 10m Famine Victims. Even without understanding the eye candy tells it all.

http://news.1plus1.ua/bin/video.php...;subtype_id=&subtype=#media_id=76918

News in the making on the FORUM. Remember where you experienced Church News.

http://www.1plus1.ua/video/349/

Last edited by Mykhayl; 07/27/08 03:42 AM.
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 501
O
Orest Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
O
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 501
For those you want to look at pictures or videos see:

The Ecumenical Patriarchs’ Arrival at the Boryspil Airport by Ukraine's Channel 5:

http://5.ua/newsline/254//52428/airport

Click on the video camera at the top of this news item (in Ukrainian).
For a series of pictures on the celebrations this weekend see:

http://www.president.gov.ua/en/gallery/1113.html


I will be posting some articles from the Ukrainian president's web site but from the non-official press there this article from “Pravda":

http://www2.pravda.com.ua/news/2008/7/26/79216.htm

Also this item in English:
See "Ukrainian president wants national church"
By MARIA DANILOVA, Associated Press Writer
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080726/ap_on_re_eu/ukraine_orthodox_church_1


Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 501
O
Orest Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
O
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 501
President Yushchenko met the Ecumenical Patriarch at the airport:
Quote
25.07.2008 10:38
Press office of President Victor Yushchenko
President welcomes Patriarch Bartholomew I in Ukraine

President Victor Yushchenko welcomed in Ukraine Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I. The welcoming ceremony took place today at Boryspil airport.

In his greeting word President Yushchenko thanked Patriarch Bartholomew I for his efforts in promoting spiritual values around the world.

He also stressed that Ukrainians consider the visit an exhibit of deep Christian love to the whole Ukrainian nation.

Patriarch Bartholomew I from his part thanked President Yushchenko for the invitation to take part in celebration of 1020th anniversary of Baptism of Rus’.

“We arrived here to pray for unification of all the Christians of Ukraine. We arrived here as angels of peacewho desire unity”, - he said.

Together with President, President’s Chief of Staff Viktor Baloha, NSDC Secretary Raisa Bohatyryova, former President of Ukraine Leonid Kravchuk, Vice Prime Minister Ivan Vasyunyk, Minister for Culture Vasyl Vovkun, Defense Minister Yuriy Yekhanurov, His Beatitude Vladimir, Metropolitan of Kiev and all Ukraine, other officials.

http://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/10735.html


Both Metropolitan Volodymyr (MP) and the Ecumenical Patriarch went to pecherska Lavra to pray together. Nice to see everyone getting along:
Quote
25.07.2008 11:50
Press office of President Victor Yushchenko
President prays in Kyiv Pechersk Lavra

President Victor Yushchenko took part in a festive service on the occasion of 1020th anniversary of Christianization of Kyivan Rus’.

The service took part in Kyiv Pechersk Lavra and was conducted by Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I and Metropolitan of Kyiv and All Ukraine Volodymyr.

After the service Metropolitan Volodymyr and Patriarch Bartholomew I said greeting words and exchanged presents.

Together with President, members of the government and delegates from foreign Orthodox Churches, who arrived to Ukraine to take part in the celebration also took part in the event.
http://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/10738.html


The liturgy at St. Sophia:
Quote
President takes part in festive liturgy at St. Sophia Cathedral

Together with his wife Kateryna Yushchenko, President Victor Yushchenko went to Saint Sophia Cathedral to take part in a festive evening liturgy, celebrating 1020th anniversary of Kyivan Rus’ Christianization. The liturgy was conducted by Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I.

Before the liturgy Patriarch Bartholomew I blessed over the new bells and the restored Holy Gates for the Cathedral. The idea of Holy Gates and bells restoration at St. Sophia Cathedral belonged to President Yushchenko.

After the service President Yushchenko and Patriarch Bartholomew I left their notes in the Book of Honorable Guests of Kyivan Sophia national preserve.
http://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/10744.html


Government dinner in hnour of Ecumenical Patriarch:
Quote
25.07.2008 20:16
Press office of President Victor Yushchenko
President hosts dinner for the Ecumenical Patriarch
President Victor Yushchenko hosted a dinner in honor of Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I.
In his toast President said that celebration of 1020th anniversary of Baptism of Kyivan Rus’ is very important for strengthening ties between Christians Ukraine and the world.

“I am assure that this year’s celebration is important for … strengthening unity of world’s orthodox community”, - he said.

From his part Patriarch Bartholomew I pointed to the fact that many saints and martyrs, important figures of Christianity descended from the Ukrainian nation. “That is why this celebration is really grand. I praise and greet those people who have been working on its realization”, - said Patriarch Bartholomew I.
http://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/10752.html


Finally for today, a speech by President Yushchenko calling for church unity:
Quote
26.07.2008 12:50
Press office of President Victor Yushchenko
President calls to unity among churches in Ukraine

President Victor Yushchenko and Mrs. Kateryna Yushchenko took part in a festive gathering on the occasion of 1020th anniversary of Kyivan Rus’ Christianization on Sophyivska Square in front of Kyiv St. Sophia Cathedral.

In his address President greeted all Ukrainians with this holiday. “It is a festival of Christianity, a festival of the European civilization. It is a festival of world’s Christian community and a festival of Orthodox Christianity. It is a festival of our nation with thousands of years of history”, - President said.

In his speech Victor Yushchenko also expressed hope for unification of Ukrainian Orthodox Churches. “I believe that with wisdom and perseverance we will walk through the path towards a dream. I believe that any partition of Ukrainian faithful is not for long. I believe that national Ukrainian Church will appear in Ukraine as a gift from God, as a historical truth and fairness”, - he said.

Addressing Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I President Yushchenko asked for his blessing for Ukraine and its nation.

Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I, from his part, praised the idea of the Ukrainian authorities to celebrate 1020th anniversary of Kyivan Rus' Baptism.

“We wholeheartedly accepted the honoring invitation of His Excellency, the President of Ukraine Mr. Viktor Yushchenko to participate in the festive ceremonies for the 1020th anniversary of the baptism of the Ukrainian nation to Christianity by the Mother Church because, on the one hand, the contribution of the Ecumenical Patriarchate to the Christianization of the European peoples is celebrated by that multifaceted event, and, on the other hand, because by that event the new, European prospects of the Ukrainian nation are emphasized at a time of great and rapid changes worldwide. The Mother Church rejoices together with the pious Ukrainian people because that baptism remains an inexhaustible source of strength not only supporting its internal spiritual coherence, but also utilizing it fully in the important field of international relationships”, - he said.

He also encouraged everybody to renew the role of Christianity as a factor for unification in the name of the holiday.

“It is a common duty of the civic, political, ecclesiastical and in general intellectual leadership of the Ukrainian people to utilize by every appropriate means the God-given gift of the Baptism not only for the immediate cure of various confusions and traumatic events of the historic past, but also for the restoration of the cohesive role that the Orthodox Church played in the consciousness of the Christ-loving Ukrainian nation. If this confusion is prolonged in order to serve ethnophyletic or political ends and purposes foreign to the Church's spiritual character would abolish the cohesive power of the Baptism and would worsen the already dangerous division of the ecclesial body, a division that wounds not only spiritual unity but also the communal coherence of the Ukrainian people with obvious troublesome consequences for the future of Ukraine”, - said Patriarch Bartholomew I.
http://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/10756.html


Tomorrow is the last day of the celebrations. The events of the celebrations of the 1020th anniversary of the
Baptism of Rus are being broadcast on these Ukrainian TV stations.
Live broadcast on the channels Inter, 1+1, ICTV, First National, and 5, and other national and foreign tv channels (part II).

Satellite for live broadcast: satellite Sirius 4 at 4.8°E; frequency 12723,75; polarization V (vertical) FEC 78 SR 3,333.

I am presently visiting my sister in Toronto. Some people in Toronto get a Ukrainian TV station on cable TV. Not my family. Too bad because i would love to watch it all.

I ask all to continue to pray for good weather for the outdoor events and peace.

Orest

Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,028
A
Member
Offline
Member
A
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,028
Will the MP and the EP still concelebrate a Hierarchical Divine Liturgy, or has all concelebration been called off?

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 79
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 79
Mykhayl,

Thank you for these great links on 1020 celebrations!

-Pustinik
------------------
"Acquire a peaceful spirit, and thousands around you will be saved." –St. Serafim of Sarov

Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,595
Likes: 1
O
Member
Offline
Member
O
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,595
Likes: 1
Still on the subject smile

I've been looking at some photos and have been stuck over one - and would appreciate an explanation Ukraianian President's page [president.gov.ua]

and go to page 24 of the photo gallery and chose pic 6.

Now in the centre of that group of Bishops is one in a phelonion . I was asking my GodPapa and he said it was a priest - BUT he had 2 pectoral crosses and I then commented that his mitre had a cross on it and a mitred ArchPriest does not have a cross on his mitre [ at least to my imperfect knowledge wink ]

Elucidation would be appreciated smile

Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,564
Likes: 1
F
Member
Offline
Member
F
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,564
Likes: 1
2 pectoral crosses and a mitre with cross on top do not a hierarch make. Though he really should get that cross taken off the mitre.

Fr. Serge

Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,595
Likes: 1
O
Member
Offline
Member
O
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,595
Likes: 1
Thanks Fr Serge smile

Pity whoever it was was right in the middle of that photo and it really got my attention.

Still - asking awkward questions is one way to learn

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 510
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 510
Слава Ісусу Христу!

Pictures of (UGCC) Patriarch Lubomyr’s (Husar) celebration in Kyiv

http://www.ugcc.org.ua/ukr/press-releases/article;7331/

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 510
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 510
Sorry I don't know why it is not connection now.

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 510
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 510
Слава Ісусу Христу!

If you have had problems receiving pictures of the Greco Catholics celebrating in Kyiv, I apologies. Hopefully these of the Greek Orthodox will make amends.

http://www.day.kiev.ua/205165/

Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,461
Likes: 1
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,461
Likes: 1
http://www.ugcc.org.ua/ukr/press-releases/article;7331
worked fine for me.

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]


Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 510
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 510
Where is page 4 and all of the reports, pictures and posts of Monday and Tuesday on "Ecumenical Patriarch to Lead Celebrations in Kyiv Next Week"?

Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,729
Likes: 23
John
Member
Offline
John
Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,729
Likes: 23
I have not yet figured out what happened and why it happened. I do know that overnight and this morning the administrators received a number of complaints about the content of posts from several different posters holding positions that were different from one another. While I saw some stridency in the posts that were reported none appeared so uncharitable that they required deletion. A portion of the thread was moved to the ‘holding tank’ to see what could be salvaged.

I can only reiterate that both posters and moderators need to be ever vigilant in being charitable, and respecting the right of posters they do not agree with to charitably make their points. I apologize for the deleted posts. Unfortunately I cannot bring most of them back and suggest that posters might repost them. If they are off topic, of course it is best to start a new thread.

Page 3 of 6 1 2 3 4 5 6

Link Copied to Clipboard
The Byzantine Forum provides message boards for discussions focusing on Eastern Christianity (though discussions of other topics are welcome). The views expressed herein are those of the participants and may or may not reflect the teachings of the Byzantine Catholic or any other Church. The Byzantine Forum and the www.byzcath.org site exist to help build up the Church but are unofficial, have no connection with any Church entity, and should not be looked to as a source for official information for any Church. All posts become property of byzcath.org. Contents copyright - 1996-2024 (Forum 1998-2023). All rights reserved.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5