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I'm a proud Libertarian voted Bob Barr, but lest I digress)


Hersh - digression noted. You would have enjoyed the dinnertime discussions in our house the last few weeks as my oldest son and I weighed the relative merits of Barr and Baldwin.

On an unrelated note it seems the McCain camp may be in the intial stages of cannibalizing Palin for the loss. Entirely predictable.

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Originally Posted by ebed melech
Originally Posted by MrsMW
So rural people are republican because of ignorance? WOW! I didn't know city folk are the only smart people out there. Then again I live close to the rural folks so maybe their ignorance has rubbed off on me.

It is a shame that many (not all) who espouse liberalism act elitist towards those of us who are conservatives. It is a mental construct that they use to explain all behavior which does not align with their "enlightened" views:

"Obviously you must be ignorant farm hands if you do not agree with me!"

Unfortunately, sometimes elitism becomes the substitute for substantive and rational debate on the issues.

Father Deacon Daniel:

I basically agree with your post. I would only want to balance it with the fact that there are many (thought not all) conservatives who also take a very elitist attitude towards liberals. I have encountered two stripes of this. There are the morally elitist conservatives, who insist that liberals are the worst of the wicked, and there are also the intellectually elitist conservatives who insist that all liberals are idiots.

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AJK, you stated:
"But the choice is not just simply one evil or another"

I was pretty sure that was inferred in my post.

I wasn't going for a Masters dissertation, just a quick follow-up to Melkite's post. You certainly didn't have to 'dumb down' my comment. I assure you, I put much more thought into my decisions than most.

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Originally Posted by Athanasius The L
Originally Posted by ebed melech
Originally Posted by MrsMW
So rural people are republican because of ignorance? WOW! I didn't know city folk are the only smart people out there. Then again I live close to the rural folks so maybe their ignorance has rubbed off on me.

It is a shame that many (not all) who espouse liberalism act elitist towards those of us who are conservatives. It is a mental construct that they use to explain all behavior which does not align with their "enlightened" views:

"Obviously you must be ignorant farm hands if you do not agree with me!"

Unfortunately, sometimes elitism becomes the substitute for substantive and rational debate on the issues.

Father Deacon Daniel:

I basically agree with your post. I would only want to balance it with the fact that there are many (thought not all) conservatives who also take a very elitist attitude towards liberals. I have encountered two stripes of this. There are the morally elitist conservatives, who insist that liberals are the worst of the wicked, and there are also the intellectually elitist conservatives who insist that all liberals are idiots.

Ryan

Yes - pride is not the sole domain of one political tendency. How I long for a Catholic Party...!

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Originally Posted by stormshadow
AJK, you stated:
"But the choice is not just simply one evil or another"

I was pretty sure that was inferred in my post.

Yes, I should have been clearer:

But the choice is not just simply one evil or another, more or less equal in proportion and therefore canceling each other out.

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You certainly didn't have to 'dumb down' my comment.
This was never even remotely my intention. My comments were directed to a large extent to posts in the closed thread that I linked.

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Originally Posted by ebed melech
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Originally Posted by ebed melech
[quote=MrsMW]So rural people are republican because of ignorance? WOW! I didn't know city folk are the only smart people out there. Then again I live close to the rural folks so maybe their ignorance has rubbed off on me.

[qoute]It is a shame that many (not all) who espouse liberalism act elitist towards those of us who are conservatives. It is a mental construct that they use to explain all behavior which does not align with their "enlightened" views:

"Obviously you must be ignorant farm hands if you do not agree with me!"

Unfortunately, sometimes elitism becomes the substitute for substantive and rational debate on the issues.

Father Deacon Daniel:

I basically agree with your post. I would only want to balance it with the fact that there are many (thought not all) conservatives who also take a very elitist attitude towards liberals. I have encountered two stripes of this. There are the morally elitist conservatives, who insist that liberals are the worst of the wicked, and there are also the intellectually elitist conservatives who insist that all liberals are idiots.

Ryan

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Yes - pride is not the sole domain of one political tendency. How I long for a Catholic Party...!

I would love to have a Catholic Party, or I would be thrilled by a party committed to principles shared by Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestants. A party committed to the inherent dignity of all human life, the common good, subsidiarity, and solidarity (the four core principles of Catholic social teaching) would transcend the categories of conservative and liberal.

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