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With a liberal president and legislative body I'm sure the equalization of homosexual couples is bound to occur, and we can see situations like the article below in the USA. http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=14964 Edinburgh, Feb 3, 2009 / 06:36 am (CNA).- Two British grandparents aged 59 and 46 have been told that they are too old and unfit to care for their grandchildren, who are to be placed with an adoptive homosexual couple.
The children had been in their grandparents’ care during their mother’s struggles with heroin. After their mother failed to bring them home from a visit, social workers became involved and the police were called in.
The children, a five-year-old boy called “Josh” and his four-year-old sister “Chloe,” were placed in foster care, an arrangement the grandparents believed to be temporary.
The local adoption and foster council went to court four times to have the children permanently removed and adopted, but each time the court ruled in favor of the grandparents.
According to The People, the council threatened to hire expensive lawyers, causing the grandparents to abandon their legal fight because of the potential legal fees and because of their fear the court hearings would prevent the grandchildren from having a settled home.
The unnamed 59-year-old grandfather, speaking in an interview with The People, said the day the social workers came to take away his and his 46-year-old wife’s grandchildren was “the worst day of my life.”
“Chloe was still little and although we were saying goodbye and reassuring her we'd see her soon, I don't think she fully understood we wouldn't be putting her to bed that night and we wouldn't be there when she woke up. But Josh knew and he was howling. He was holding on to me and saying 'Please, Granddad, don't send me away. I want to stay with you and Grandma'.”
Two weeks ago they learned the children were to be adopted by a homosexual couple.
“"If we had known how it would turn out, that social workers would choose a home without a mother for them and we'd have to like it or not see them again, we'd never have given up the fight,” their grandmother said.
"The thing is they were so happy here. They knew they were loved and they were safe.
"They had all this countryside to play in. They loved going on the farm with their granddad. They'd see deer and badgers and all sorts out there.”
The children are now with a foster mother while they are gradually introduced to the homosexual couple.
The grandparents claim that social workers told them their access to the children would be restricted if they opposed the homosexual adoption, according to The People. Last week the grandparents were told they would never see their grandchildren again because they had made public the fact that the children were taken from them and to be adopted by two homosexual men.
According to the Telegraph, the case is believed to be the second time that a homosexual couple has been chosen to adopt in Edinburgh.
Peter Kearney, a spokesman for the Roman Catholic Church in Scotland, criticized the adoption, saying:
"This is a devastating decision which will have a serious impact on the welfare of the children involved.
"There is an overwhelming body of evidence showing that same-sex relationships are inherently unstable and reduce the life expectancy of those involved.
"With this in mind, the social work department has deliberately ignored evidence which undermines their decision and opted for politically correct posturing rather than providing stability and protection.
"It is impossible to see how this decision is in the best interests of the children," Kearney remarked, according to The Scotsman.
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since when are 59 and 46 year olds too old to raise a child? the world has gone mad!
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The part that I don't get here is that the local "adoption and foster council" was simply able to take these children away from their grandparents like that.
Regardless of who the prospective "adoptive parents" are, to take children away from their own grandparents for no other reason than to have them available for adoption is less than a half-step away from taking them away from their parents for the same reason.
God willing, this case will make national news--possibly even world news--and expose these Nazi-like actions for what they are!
Peace,
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I can't help feeling that somewhere we do not have enough information about this.
Sadly here , Social Services do seem to be finding some rather strange reasons for turning people down as adoptive or foster parents .
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Sadly here , Social Services do seem to be finding some rather strange reasons for turning people down as adoptive or foster parents . If what you say is true then it is even more disturbing that a homosexual relationship is not a "strange" enough resaon for being turned away.
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I've been following this case as it's been published in British papers. The claim that they are too old took me back.
My parents are in that range and adopted twins, it's absurd to say these grandparents are too old. Then the case worker added insult to injury and demand that the parents proclaim acceptance of the adoption.
With the media attention the case worker told the grandparents through their daughter that she would not be recommending that they be able to visit. There is an emboldened ideological malice at work. I don't like it.
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The part that I don't get here is that the local "adoption and foster council" was simply able to take these children away from their grandparents like that.
Regardless of who the prospective "adoptive parents" are, to take children away from their own grandparents for no other reason than to have them available for adoption is less than a half-step away from taking them away from their parents for the same reason.
God willing, this case will make national news--possibly even world news--and expose these Nazi-like actions for what they are!
Peace,
Deacon Richard It's really crazy, but world attention will actually encourage more actions like this. The "gay rights" advocates are on a roll and will consider this a victory for "equal rights." Traditional families are out of favor in the western world; courts can do anything they please; they just need to repeat the lies like "abused" and "too old" enough and it becomes truth. Are we ready for "change"??? Lord have mercy!
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. . . the case worker told the grandparents through their daughter . . . Here's the part where there is more here than meets the eye. It would seem that the daughter, the heroin addict, still had something to say about the custody of her children. While the grandparents were apparently successful in convincing a judge that they should have custody (four times), the daughter seems to have had an agenda of her own here. Maybe this is her way of punishing her parents for not giving her lifestyle as a druggie their full approval. It may also have been a parallel thing going on where she was put under the gun by the judicial system. It may be that the daughter's brush with the law as an addict included her having to give up her parental rights. In the meantime, she either didn't have the sense to have her parents adopt her children or she intentionally wanted to hurt them at the same time she had to give up her own rights. But the grandparents didn't get the info straight from the caseworker. It came second-hand through their own daughter. So this little excerpt opens the possibilities of what really happened a bit farther. In any event, it seems that in UK law there is no recognized right of grandparents as there are in some jurisdictions in the U.S. BOB
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I can't help feeling that somewhere we do not have enough information about this.
Sadly here , Social Services do seem to be finding some rather strange reasons for turning people down as adoptive or foster parents . I have to agree--the media rarely has or reports the whole story. And then it just gets sensationalized. I read yesterday that someone was reporting that the pope may be considering resigning over the whole debacle of the Bishop Williamson of the St. Pius X Society. Come on! Is this real reporting? And then flame wars start...
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While I was at university, I had a good friend who had been adopted by his grandparents when he was very young. It doesn't seem to have done him any harm - quite the contrary.
On the other hand, it's unfortunate that someone described the court decision as "Nazi-like"; grandparents do not seem to have been automatically enrolled on Hitler's extermination agenda, but gays certainly were.
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Just to add to this topic - though not referring to these specific children - in London at present the local authority in one of the London Boroughs is propsing to place some Coptic Orthodox children in the care of Muslims !! Again we do not know the full details 3 Coptic Orthodox children [ stmark.org.uk]
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I know of Shia being placed with Sunnis here in Australia and child protection workers wondering why the placement was breaking down. They were from Afghanistan. They had not idea of the religious end ethnic issues of that country. Not a clue. 
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