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"To my mind , unless you are in the situation of being present in their country and with them for long periods , you have no real idea as to how these so called Latinisations came about."

Actually, these things have been studied and written up for decades, so it is not necessary to go there to know what happened. In fact, independent scholars far from the scene are more likely to know how the present situation came about than the people who are actually living it, for whom as the saying goes, "Tradition began on the day I was born".

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While I share Neil's understanding of the term Rite, and for the same reasons, I am curious as to the origin of the rest of Neil's taxonomic structure, since it does not correspond to the useages I've seen elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by Our Lady's slave
I really find all these cricitisms of an ancient Church unacceptable.

To my mind , unless you are in the situation of being present in their country and with them for long periods , you have no real idea as to how these so called Latinisations came about.

I simply mentioned "Latinization" without any qualifiers or criticisms, and the pictures are obvious. I'd be an idiot to think that these pictures show pure Ethiopic use.

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Originally Posted by asianpilgrim
Coming back to the topic:

The statistics for the Catholic Church in Eritrea indicate an unusually large concentration of female religious in Asmara. Are these Eastern or Latin rite?

I should have said MALE AND FEMALE religious.
In 1990 the Latins reported 56 male and 120 female religious in the Vicariate Apostolic of Asmara (source [catholic-hierarchy.org]), the Ethiopians 181 male and 282 female religious in the Eparchy of Asmara (source [catholic-hierarchy.org]).

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As all Catholics in Eritrea are now under the 3 Eparchs that is a lot of religious indeed.

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I have never been in Eritrea or Ethiopia, but don't you think that having mixed Western and Ethiopian clergy being sometimes bi-ritual might cause confusion and latinization?

I remember that one Ethiopian poster in this forum, said that while in the northern part of the country the Ethiopian Church was totally Eastern and without latinization, in the South there was confusion and lack of identity among Catholics because of the presence of modern Western clergy.

Is the presence of the Western clergy necessary? Instead of sending foreign clergy and their modernized rites and practices alien to the Ethiopian nation, Rome should support more Ethiopian and Eritrean rite priests, create more seminaries and invest in their preparation. This way, more Pagans in the South would convert to Christianity.

Why does the Vatican think only Western priests are able to Evangelize and convert people to Christianity?


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Might, not must, Mexican.

Some of the most "Keep the East Eastern and the West Western" priests I've met have been Biritual.

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Exactly and I am one of them!
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But then again I am usually a purist in all aspects of life. smile

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