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I just came across this text giving tips for visitors to an Eastern parish. For Visitors [ centralpennsylvaniaorthodox.wordpress.com] I think it's quite well done. Though it's directed primarily to visitors to an Orthodox service, many of the principles would apply to Eastern Catholic parishes also.
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Shoes!
I tell all my friends who are going to visit, comfy shoes. Sometimes they listen, other times they learn the value of suffering.
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Stuart,
I would recommend comfy socks because we remove our shoes before entering the main church area in the Malankara Tradition!
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DT, thanks for posting this link. It was a wonderful read! I saved it for future reference!
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You will never hear the priest or deacon praying for “social justice” or whatever the currently popular euphemism for world Marxist government may be.
I know of a few Catholics who would be very offended by that kind of language........but I'm certainly not one of them !
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Dave, Nice find - and, of particular interest (after a bit of not very difficult sleuthing - I'm always compelled to check out the 'contact' info and learn who created something so worthwhile  ), it appears to be the website of our fellow forumite - rwprof. Kudos to the gentleman! Many years, Neil
"One day all our ethnic traits ... will have disappeared. Time itself is seeing to this. And so we can not think of our communities as ethnic parishes, ... unless we wish to assure the death of our community."
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I would recommend comfy socks because we remove our shoes before entering the main church area in the Malankara Tradition! Warm, comfy socks, then.
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Though it's directed primarily to visitors to an Orthodox service, many of the principles would apply to Eastern Catholic parishes also. Many? Try almost all. Only the guidance on approaching for communion differs.
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That could be. The standing, fasting, prostration, and service length practices vary.
The mission parish I now attend (OCA) is almost identical in practice to Holy Resurrection Monastery (Romanian Catholic), except for making bread (and zapivka) available to those who receive Communion as a beginning of the breaking of their fast. Otherwise it's almost the same.
The Ukrainian and Ruthenian parishes I would attend had less standing, fasting and prostrations and shorter service lengths. Though there are some parishes which are exceptions to that.
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Just a quick mention:
The author of this piece has just requested prayers as he fell and fractured his spine yesterday. In your charity, please remember our fellow forum member, rwprof, in prayer. You might even stop by the prayer section and let him know that you're praying for him.
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That could be. The standing, fasting, prostration, and service length practices vary. Even amongst the Orthodox. The Antiochians have nothing resembling the All Night Vigil, from the Latin vigilis, meaning "really long". On the other hand, I was at a Greek divine Liturgy on Long Island that barely lasted an hour, even with the readings and the homily done both in Greek and English. They must have a seventy minute rule, too.
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Even amongst the Orthodox. The Antiochians have nothing resembling the All Night Vigil, from the Latin vigilis, meaning "really long". On the other hand, I was at a Greek divine Liturgy on Long Island that barely lasted an hour, even with the readings and the homily done both in Greek and English. Very true.
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Even amongst the Orthodox. The Antiochians have nothing resembling the All Night Vigil, from the Latin vigilis, meaning "really long". On the other hand, I was at a Greek divine Liturgy on Long Island that barely lasted an hour, even with the readings and the homily done both in Greek and English. They must have a seventy minute rule, too. This is a generalisation. When I was a priest in the Antiochian Archdiocese, my Parish did, in fact, have Vigils (Great Vespers, Matins, First Hour) lasting about 2.5 hours on the Eve of Great Feasts. Bishop Basil (Essey) told me I was not alone in doing this. On Saturday evenings our parish had Ninth Hour, Great Vespers, and Little Compline with the Pre-Communion Canon, lasting about 1.5 hours, followed on Sunday morning by Midnight Office and Matins (about 2 hours) and then immediately the Divine Liturgy (another 1.75 hours). I know other Antiochian priests who served similarly.
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Thanks for the clarification, Father.
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