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#339121 12/10/09 07:04 PM
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While researching for a trip next year, I found that there was a UGCC cathedral in Paris. There's also a Melkite parish in Marseille.

How large is the Eastern Catholic presence in Western Europe - specifically France.

(I figured Fr Serge would have the best info, but alas, his mailbox is full!)

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The Melkites have two churches: one in Paris and one in Marseille.
Many Russians in exile took up residence in France so there is quite a number of Russian Orthodox in France, spread around (largely Paris and the South East).

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Within the UGCC there is an Exarchate for France, "Benelux" and Switzerland. I believe His Grace Kyr +Michael (Hrynchyshyn) is still the Exarch.

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His Grace is in dire need of a vowel.

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At the very least, there is the Cathedral in Paris, Chevetogne Monastery (although not UGCC; they pray in Slavonic) in Belgium (very close to the French border), and the church in Lourdes. Awful iconography in the Lourdes church, but a lovely community.

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Oh - I don't know - the Iconography kind of grows on you after a while smile

Kyr Michael won't hear of any changes .

OH and Chevetogne use Greek and Slavonic and French - it gave me quite a surprise.

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Originally Posted by Logos - Alexis
His Grace is in dire need of a vowel.

Alexis

i have no valuable contribution to this thread, but ha to give kudos for that comment - funny coz it's tue.

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In English, the vowels are A, E, I, O, U, - and sometimes Y!

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So I vaguely remember from Kindergarten!

It was just a joke. wink

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ALEXIS:

I understand. I had a student in my English class in the early 1970s with a name similar to his Grace's. It started with "Czsz . . ." but the first three letters were supposed to be silent in English pronunciation. I just adopted the request "would you be kind enough to pronounce your name for me" and found that it helped tremendously. wink grin Now when I find a name like that I write it phonemically in my Preneed files so as to help my colleagues in the professional practice from stepping into an embarrassment.

BTW, how is the study coming for your last exam?

BOB

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Oh, it's coming! 36 hours and I'm free...for two and half weeks!

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Thanks for the all replies. I have "google mapped" where the UGCC cathedral is as well as the Melkite church in PAris. Hopefully, on one of our sight-seeing days, I can make a 10-15 minute detour into them and look around.


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There is also a pleasant Russian Greek-Catholic church in Paris - metro to Eglise d'Auteuil.

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I tried Google Street View in this area - found an address for it at 39 Rue Francois Gerard in the 16th district. Nada! Nothing "churchy" stood out at all.

I did find out that there's some kind of Byzantine Catholic parish in Lyon. I'll be there mid-week but not sure if I'll be able to make it by the parish.


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crule,

You've got the right address - I couldn't get the street view to take me far enough to see 39

Holy Trinity Russian Catholic Church
39, rue Francois Gerard
75016 Paris, France
Tel: (33-1) 4224-0553
Divine Liturgy: Sunday 10:45 a.m. (Julian Calendar)

Many years,

Neil


"One day all our ethnic traits ... will have disappeared. Time itself is seeing to this. And so we can not think of our communities as ethnic parishes, ... unless we wish to assure the death of our community."
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