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#355059 10/27/10 08:32 AM
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Glory to Jesus Christ!

In my Young Adult Catholic Group I attend, we just had a discussion the other day about exorcism and went over that most famous case that occurred in the east in the mid-1900's. I imagine that there are rites of exorcism in the East, but I'm curious as to how is it different fro the Roman Rite of Exorcism? Also is the understanding different in any way? And lastly, has there been any famous case of exorcism in the last century or so?

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To learn more about such an (in-)famous modern case in the Roman Catholic Church, go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anneliese_Michel

Personally I suspect excessive curiosity about these matters is perhaps somehow unseemly...

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Sielos,

I am not being excessively curious. I only ask because we went over this just the other day in my young adult group and I'm not asking about the Roman Catholic case. I'm just curious of any difference in east and west on this subject. Not looking for anything in depth either. This is not something I would want to get too detailed into. Just curious of any comparative difference in this is all and this is only coming up because it was brought up just the other day.

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Originally Posted by Luvr of East
Glory to Jesus Christ!

In my Young Adult Catholic Group I attend, we just had a discussion the other day about exorcism and went over that most famous case that occurred in the east in the mid-1900's. I imagine that there are rites of exorcism in the East, but I'm curious as to how is it different fro the Roman Rite of Exorcism? Also is the understanding different in any way? And lastly, has there been any famous case of exorcism in the last century or so?

Kyrie eleison,

Manuel

In the early 1900's a father cursed his daughter in Piraeus, Greece, and the daughter became possessed. Not one priest could exorcise her as all the sins of each priest were revealed by the evil one; no priest was worthy enough to exorcise this particular strong demon. Infact, he was so strong, that he boasted that he was one of three great demons--the other two being in Russia and China!! (Lest anyone think that those leaders of history who have exhibited great evil are not influenced or even possessed by the legions of the evil one)..

The demon would speak to the priests through the girl, and one day he said that the only one that could exorcise him would be "the one with the nails". Well this baffled everybody, and they couldn't figure out what it meant.

Around that time, as is the practice in Greece, the body of St. Nektarios, who had recently reposed and was buried on the island of Aegina, was being unearthed after the traditional three year period. When he was unearthed, a beautiful scent filled the air, and he was so intact still that his nails had continued growing!!

This apparently became big news, and it became obvious who 'the one with the nails' was. The girl was taken to the relics of the saint, and she was exorcised by the holiness of his relics. If I remember correctly, she then became a nun at the monastery he established.

May our Lord protect us all. As Father Amorth (Exorcist of Rome) said, the biggest boost we can give the evil one is to deny his existence...

Personally, I believe very strongly that psychopathic murderers and child kidnappers are often people who have opened their souls to evil entities (by not praying, not believing in God, etc.-- and as the news has uncovered about them time and time-- dabbling in demonic material such as satanism, occult, and perverse pornographic material)

Kyrie Eleison!

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Oops...my bad.

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It's all gouda biggrin

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Thank you Alice. smile

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This is a recent related post, hopefully it will help in discussion too.

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=505828

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Interesting thread! Thanks for sharing!

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Glory to Jesus Christ!

Dear Alice,

Both in the thread that little boy lost provided and in another thread you responded to, there was mention of drinking Holy Water. My first response is HUH??? I'm coming from a Roman Catholic changing to Melkite Catholic background and first, I did not even know that the Christian East used Holy Water other than in baptism. But the second and biggest surprise is this drinking of Holy Water. What is this drinking of Holy Water about? Is it really part of Eastern Christian exorcism? I had no idea if it is. Any other use of Holy Water in the East?

Kyrie eleison,

Manuel

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Adding a drop of Holy Water to a meal happens in the Christian West as well.

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Originally Posted by PeterPeter
Adding a drop of Holy Water to a meal happens in the Christian West as well.

Interesting. Never heard of that. Thanks for that tid bit of info smile

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My first thought re: exorcism in the East is during the Chrismation.

As per what you are probably more looking for, here are two articles from the Greek Orthodox Arch. of America:

http://www.goarch.org/ourfaith/ourfaith7079

http://www.goarch.org/ourfaith/ourfaith7078

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Although not directly related to this thread, the Rite of Baptism has a prayer of exorcism prior to the denunciation of Satan and affirmation of belief in and serving Christ.

As I understand it, the prayer is to "deliver" the person from demons and to beseech God to assign an "angel of light" to the person being baptised.

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In the Byzantine Church I don't think there is an equivalent of the Latin Church's rite of exorcism - at least not in the Great Trebnyk. There are some prayers and stuff. Rather surprising...

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