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Perhaps someone has already brought this address to the attention of the forum, but in case no one has, I thought it would be of real interest to the members of this forum: Yannaras Commencement Address [ johnsanidopoulos.com]. Consider especially the following paragraphs: The "Zealots" of Orthodoxy, as our own fundamentalists are called, are as a rule ; fanatically anti-Western: they regard the Christian churches and confessions of the West as opponents of the Orthodox camp, as a real threat. They proclaim that the West is steeped in error and at the same time has evil designs on Orthodoxy. Thus for the Zealots any attempt at Orthodox "dialogue" with Western Christians, any participation in the "ecumenical movement" signifies a betrayal of Orthodoxy, a surrender to error, an abandoning of the conviction that the Church is One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic.
But this Zealotry certainty does not constitute a defence of the decisions of the Councils; it does not derive from a conciliar expression of catholic ecclesial experience. It is an individual choice and conviction, based usually on the opinion of some geron, or elder, also chosen individually, who is lent "objective" authority by his hagiorite, or other, monastic affiliation. The defense of Orthodoxy by the "conservatives" is conducted on the basis of their individual choices and judgements, not on the basis of the Church's conciliar expression. It is therefore a defense that manifestly undermines the coherence of the ecclesial body. It invalidates the conciliar system; it denies the episcopal ministry.
Thus the individualistic character of Zealotry-Fundamentalism and the accompanying idolization of formalism - of "dogmas" and "canons" rendered independent of ecclesial experience - assimilate the "Orthodoxy" of conservative Christians to every other ideological "orthodoxy": to that of conservative Marxists, conservative Freudians, etc. All these "orthodoxies" have the same characteristics in common:
They attribute a quality of infallible authority to "sources": to the original formulations of an empirical testimony, or of a hermeneutic theory, or of a proposition concerning regulative principles (of a practical deontology). And they bitterly oppose any deviation from the original formulation because its objectified "truth" can be possessed and offer assurance to the individual, cladding the ego in certainties. The texts of Marx or Freud or the Fathers of the Church become the infallible measure that gauges the correctness of every opinion, view, or proposition - that judges which person individually possesses the truth and which is in error, which person will be saved and which will go to perdition. And the measure of this judqernent is applied authoritatively by the "zealot," the defender of original authenticity.
It is thus perfectly obvious that this understanding of "Orthodoxy" is to be identified with the specific product of the post-Roman West that we call "ideology." In defining ideology, I would say that it is the transformation of experiential knowledge into a certainty that is purely intellectual - or, more generally, the substitution of experiential assurance (which is always verified through the relations of sharing in the experience) by individual (intellectual-psychological) convictions. Ideology replaces the attaining of participation in a shared experience of truth simply with the individual understanding of the formulations of truth or with something inferior to that: blind insistence alone on the letter of the formulations. Catholicism, of course, has its own form of fundamentalism. But whether Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox, what they have in common is the loss of the living gospel of Jesus Christ.
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Yannaras is making the classic distinction enunciated by Jaroslav Pelikan: "Tradition is the living faith of the dead. Traditionalism is the dead faith of the living".
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Christos Yannaras has his own weird idiosyncracies. Which of his holy elders taught him this?
"The God of Augustine, of Anselm, and of Nicodemos [of the Holy Mountain], the terrorist God of sadistic demands for justice, is of no concern to man... He must be set aside and put out of mind."
"Orthodoxy and the Western World" p. 206.
Those neo-con athonites sure could learn a thing or two about authentically Orthodox theology and spirituality from Christos Yannaras.
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Those neo-con athonites sure could learn a thing or two about authentically Orthodox theology and spirituality from Christos Yannaras. Bless Father, The Neo-con commit almost made me fall out of my chair from laughing. Having participated in the Greek Old Calendar movement for some time (2007-2009) and belonging to the moderate Synod in Resistance I can speak for the civility and love shown by many in the Orthodox traditionalist movement. In all my time as a layman in the SiR the Bishops, Priests, Deacons, monastics, and laity of the SiR were the upmost Christians who showed only Love for those who they disagreed with. (And I travelled to Greece and stayed at their mother Monastery and had the privalge of meeting Metropolitan Cyprian) While there are sundry elements in the Old Calendar movement who speak very harshly with those who disagree with them this does not represent the whole of Orthodox traditionalism. While, we may disagree with many they are not all fanatics but are trying to live their faith life according to their conscience. (as we all are)
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