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Greetings. I follow episcopal ordinations and the late Msgr Joseph Tawk, of happy memory, used to keep me updated on Maronite bishops`ordinations. I have been trying to identify the 10 bishops who concelebrated at the ordination.

I dowloaded several of the photos. No. 29 of 77 shows all of the bishops. I believe that I have identified several of them: Bishops Samir Mazloum, Guy-Paul Noujaim, Paul-Emile Saade, Francois Neme Baissari, and Michel Aoun.

I believe that Archbishop Paul Nabil El-Sayah, and Bishops Simon Attalah and Francois Eid are also among them.

Do you know if I am correct with the above and who the other two bishops (the 6th and 9th) - and any that I may have incorrectly identified - might be?

Thanks for any assistance you can give me.

Peace,

Charles

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Brother Malphono,

The Sharrar sounds like the Anaphoro we Syro-Malankara used during Great and Holy Thursday (if I recall correctly).. I remember this particular Anaphoro being unique in that there was no literal Institution Narrative, but a Narrative like the one I've heard of Addai & Mari.

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While I could identify some of them from a full-face view, I really can't say that I recognize any from that angle. Photo #34 is a little better: on the far left is Yousef Bishara. The short chubby one 4th from the left is Baisari. Second from the right is Mar Semaan Attallah. Next to him (3rd from the right) looks like Boulous Mattar. Sorry, but that's the best I can do, and I'm even sure about all of them. shocked

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I'm not familiar with the particular usage of the Syro-Malankara, but it could well be an adaptation either of Peter III or of Addai & Mari itself. Does there happen to be an on-line link to a Syriac or English text?

FYI, Peter III does have an Institution Narrative, although there is some discussion about whether that's original or if it was added at a later date. IIRC, the oldest extant manuscript of it (8th or 9th century? I forget off-hand) does contain the text.

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Originally Posted by malphono
While I could identify some of them from a full-face view, I really can't say that I recognize any from that angle. Photo #34 is a little better: on the far left is Yousef Bishara. The short chubby one 4th from the left is Baisari. Second from the right is Mar Semaan Attallah. Next to him (3rd from the right) looks like Boulous Mattar. Sorry, but that's the best I can do, and I'm even sure about all of them. shocked

Thank you very much for your help. I appreciate you taking the time to look over the photos.

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Originally Posted by Irish Melkite
Who is the new bishop with the distinctive vesture and what is its significance?

You mean the one on the left wearing the red-trimmed phaino?

Exactly!

Many years,

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Originally Posted by Irish Melkite
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Who is the new bishop with the distinctive vesture and what is its significance?

You mean the one on the left wearing the red-trimmed phaino?

Exactly!

OK, now I've got it. There's really no special significance to that particular phaino etc. (I'm not certain, but I would guess it's worn by Joseph Mouawad since he's the youngest of the lot.) Notice that each of the candidates is vested differently. Since Bkerke has tons of matching sets, I would imagine each of the candidates brought his own vestments for the occasion. Of the 5, the only two I care for are the red-trimmed one and the one worn by Mar Mousa. The other 3 are ok but I could live without them. Too similar to the Bkerke sets (which, although I'm told they're hand-sewn, have that "mass-produced" look because they're meant to be the same -- rather like what goes on in the Novus Ordo but I digress) for my taste.

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There's nothing online, but I'll try to photograph the Holy Thursday Anaphoro from the thakso this Sunday.

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Dear Brother Malphono,

See here:
http://postimage.org/gallery/116przwa/

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Thanks for the photos. I'm not personally familiar with the Anaphora of Dionysious in particular, but from what I see, the structure is purely West-Syriac (as are the 70+ others), which is just what I would expect.

As for the Institution Narrative, it looks perfectly normal to me. Remember that it does differ from Anaphora to Anaphora, and this is one of the shorter ones (and it's actually quite similar to Mar Sixtus).

Now, Peter III is structured in a different way, meaning that it is very similar to the structure of Addai & Mari. The Institution Narrative in Peter III is also quite different, unique even, in that it is the only Institution Narrative that is in the 2nd Person, ("You took bread ..." etc).

BTW, the Missal in the link is quite interesting. I doubt it's available online (please correct me if I'm wrong), but do you know where was it published and where one might obtain a copy?

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Thanks for the update --

What you mention is also being studied here:
http://www.ourladyofperpetualhelpchurch.com/chaldeanculture_2.htm

For the new Takso, the English edition was just released at the Syro-Malankara Convention last week. The best place to get a copy in New York is at the Bishop's Residence (950 Hillside Avenue, New Hyde Park, New York). It was published in Kerala, India.

Actually, I think Aboon Mor Gregory was given a copy as well, since he attended the Convention - he might be the quickest route.

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Thanks for the link. smile Mar Sarhad is quite a well known scholar, perhaps the leading authority on Addai & Mari in the world. His studies are always interesting.

I will ask Mor Gregory about the Takso next time I see him. BTW, is it bi-lingual Syriac-English?


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The Edition that Mor Gregory has is probably mostly English with some prayers written in both Syriac and English - the priest can choose which he wants to use at Holy Qurbono. I've seen some Malayalam editions with Syriac on one side and Malayalam on the other, but no edition with full side by side like that in Syriac and English.

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Aha! Not that I read Malayalam, but I do read Suryoyo, so the edition with the full Syriac text is of interest to me. Any idea how to go about getting one? If worse came to worst, I suppose I could always ask Mor Gregory to intercede. wink

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Hello Michael,

I live on Long Island. I would like to purchase a copy of the English Tasko. Would I write to the address in New Hyde Park or can I go and buy it directly from there? Thank you

In Christ,
Anthony

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Thanks for the update --

What you mention is also being studied here:
http://www.ourladyofperpetualhelpchurch.com/chaldeanculture_2.htm

For the new Takso, the English edition was just released at the Syro-Malankara Convention last week. The best place to get a copy in New York is at the Bishop's Residence (950 Hillside Avenue, New Hyde Park, New York). It was published in Kerala, India.

Actually, I think Aboon Mor Gregory was given a copy as well, since he attended the Convention - he might be the quickest route.

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