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Recently the Society of Sts. Peter and Andrew has been trying to create a map of the Catholic Church to go along with it's Liturgical Calendars for the Rites.

What we are looking for are sound statistics on how many people belong to each individual Rite, pictures that relate to the Rite, more information on the Rite and videos of the Rite's traditions and Liturgies!

To see what is collect so far check out our link here:
http://www.stspeterandrew.com/#!map-of-the-church/coqi

All the help we can get is very much appreiciated. First and formost we want to get all the liturgical calendars put into a Google Calendar or RSS feed format so that we can easily link to our site.
To see what we have so far check out:
http://www.stspeterandrew.com/#!saints-and-scripture-/c21xo
and the forum:
https://www.byzcath.org/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/395321/Liturgical_Calendars#Post395321

If you can even help a little bit!!! please send us an email at stspeterandrew@gmail.com

Great things will coming soon!

Sincerely Yours in Christ,
D.V.C.

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Originally Posted by SocietyOfStsP&A
To see what is collect so far check out our link here:
http://www.stspeterandrew.com/#!map-of-the-church/coqi
It is nice, although I'd like to point out that, contrary to what it says, only a small fraction of the Latin Church is immediately subject to the Pope.

Also, it seems to be subtlely (or sometimes not-so-subtlely) suggesting that each Eastern Catholic Church is really a rite and not a church.

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I did send your group an email and haven't gotten a response yet . . . sniff . . .

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Peter - you Rock!

Very good! RC's often have that problem. A rite can be shared (albeit with local variations) by several Particular Eastern Catholic Churches.

The Society of Sts Peter and Andrew needs to divest itself of that apparent issue asap.

In addition, a "rite" can have both Julian and Gregorian calendars (just as the UGCC "rite" has).

And not all parishes within a given "rite" smile would venerate the same saints either.

I know UGCC parishes who venerate and have on their walls very many Orthodox Saints which they've taken directly from the Orthodox calendar without paying any attention as to whether Rome has officially acknowledged them or not. Then there is one UGCC that has the icon of the Pillars of Orthodoxy and one UGCC priest who wants to establish a UGCC brotherhood of St Mark of Ephesus . . .

Also, I don't know if I like the idea of "Sts Peter and Andrew" as if St Peter's influence is limited to Rome alone. St Peter established many churches throughout the East, in Antioch in particular.

It was only at Rome in the West that he was martyred with St Paul where both Apostles consecrated bishops (to add to those who were already there before them).

St Peter belongs as much to the East as St Andrew (and all the Apostles).

You tell me if I'm "rite" or not.

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Well how do you think that could be solved?

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I apologize! I do not recall a message ever coming from you. I am normally very good at responding to all emails.
Did you send it to stspeterandrew@gmail.com

Also if you have any suggestions, I am very open to hearing them.

As for Sts. Peter and Andrew. The Church is one, the geographical location of which each Saint is associated and their brotherhood is unique. It is East and West (even though Peter established the Church in Antioch). However, together they are one. This idea of tribalism over unity creates division and though individuality is good, things get done with team work.

The eye should not try to be a stomach, but the eye has to remember it only a part of the whole. The whole is the Body of Christ.

The point that St. Peter is just as important to the East as he is the West is the whole point the Society is trying to convey! The Church must learn to Breathe With her two Lungs! East and West! West and East!

God Bless,
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I must not have had the correct email address - sorry!

Will continue to discern about this . . .

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I've come to the conclusion that I just don't have the requisite knowledge/capability to adequately represent the Eastern (or Western) perspectives on your website!

I pray you will find others with qualifications to assist you!

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Originally Posted by SocietyOfStsP&A
Well how do you think that could be solved?
Don't list Churches as Rites it is incorrect. Several Eastern Catholic Churches use th Byzantine Rite. Only the Armenian Catholic Church use the Armenian Rite. The Latin Catholic Church uses three Rites, Roman(and its derived Uses, Ambrosian, and Mozarabic.


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Thank you Father Deacon for pointing that out. The Catholic Church is a communion of Churches. Each individual Church follows a liturgical rite. We are not just simply another rite but members of a particular Catholic Church in communion with the Roman Church, which is but one, though with primacy, of the particular Churches.

"May they all be one."

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Originally Posted by Fr. Deacon Lance
Don't list Churches as Rites it is incorrect. Several Eastern Catholic Churches use th Byzantine Rite. Only the Armenian Catholic Church use the Armenian Rite. The Latin Catholic Church uses three Rites, Roman(and its derived Uses, Ambrosian, and Mozarabic. [/quote]

How would I show this in the Map of the Church?
http://www.stspeterandrew.com/#!map-of-the-church/coqi

Can you send me more information?
stspeterandrew@gmail.com

Thank you for this!

God Bless.

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I respect that.

Thank you very much for what you have given me.

If you change your mind, your voice will be welcome and in fact I would love to here from you.

God Bless.
All Glory to Jesus Christ!


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