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Father Thomas Loya (Annunciation Byzantine Catholic Church, Homer Glen Chicago IL) ,website has now been been censored by his Bishop Milan Lach.
Catholic Bishops of any Catholic Rite don't like their Catholic Priests who SPEAK THE CATHOLIC TRUTH or allow the CATHOLIC TRUTH to be asked of them.
Father Loya was censored like the RC Father Altman.
Bishop Milan, a Jesuit was appointed by fellow Jesuit Pope Francis to be the Bishop of Parma.
I guess Very Reverand Loya who WAS the Protosyncellus, Director of MISSIONS , Syncellus for Clergy must have hit a RAW NERVE of the Bishop.
I also belive that he is no longer Protosyncellus, Director of MISSIONS , Syncellus for Clergy
Go up on Father Loya's website.

SLAVA ISUSU CHRISTU!

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Please post a link, Fr Thomas has several websites and none that I am familiar with point to any censorship by Bishop Milan

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www.parma.org/10/27/20 [parma.org] Eparchial News site.

Press Release Concerning the Claims of Fr. Loya
The Eparchy of Parma has received inquiries concerning the meaning of the claim of Fr. Thomas Loya that he is “being censored.” As Fr. Loya’s bishop, Bishop Milan Lach has a duty and obligation to monitor and be vigilant over the public ministry of his priests. Eparchial (diocesan) priests by virtue of their incardination participate in the teaching function of their bishops and thus act in the name of the Church. Consequently, they are bound to cooperate with their bishops concerning the content and the manner of discussing theological and social issues which touch the lives of the faithful. For this purpose, church laws encourage and at times prescribe the use of censors. Bishop Milan Lach is in no way trying to restrict the truth, but rather, is helping Fr. Loya in the discernment of the manner in which he preaches it.

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Can't say that I'm all that surprised. If you saw Fr. Loya's YouTube videos, he was very strong in criticizing this whole pandemic scam and the bishops' response to it. As many of us have been.

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Keep in mind that Bishop Milan is a Jesuit appointed by Jesuit PF in his liberal marxist socialist mold.
THIS IS CENSORSHIP of THE NON POLITICALLY CORRECT TRUTH!
That's why no Catholic Bishops including our own speak out against CINO politicians like biden, pelosi, cuomo-ny, murphy-nj etc etc or Excommunicate them
for their continued pro choice abortion voting and they also say nothing about Catholic Moral voting responsibility which includes Mortal Sin for voting for any
pro choice abortion politician of any party.
It's all about government funding.

Our CATHOLIC Bishops refuse to say that NO CATHOLIC CAN VOTE FOR A PRO CHOICE POLITICAL CANDIDATE WITHOUT COMMITTING A MORTAL SIN!

Any good and holy Priest like Very Rev Tom Loya and RC Father Altman is immediately censored for saying this or even alluding this.
These Holy Priests have the moral fiber, guts and balls TO TELL THE CATHOLIC TRUTH!

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The entire covid-19 FLU is all liberal democratic lapdog media mass hysteria against President Trump.
I work for a major NYC Blood Bank and I know the truth.
99% of all people with covid-19 FLU said that it was just like the seasonal FLU that comes every year.
I spoke to hundreds of Doctors and Nurses who got covid-19 FLU from the hospitals where they work or doctors offices where sick people who had covid-19 were clustered.
In March only people for the most part that were already fighting other complications and than got covid-19 got a sever reaction and died, mostly in nursing homes.
Now NO ONE DIES ANYMORE because people who had covid -19 and recovered (The 99%) are now donating their Blood Plasma with covid-19 antigens.
And MASKS ARE COMPLETELY USELESS!
Why?
Masks are not air tight and covid-19 IS AN AIRBORNE VIRUS and can get into your body THROUGH YOUR WET EYEBALLS!
Also HCQ Hydrochloroquine has always worked and it has been approved by the FDA for nearly 40 years.
Doctors and Nurses told me that all covid-19 patients were given a cocktail of HCQ, Vitamins C,D, ZINC anti viral and if needed prednisone.
This also worked.
How do I know this?
Doctors and Nurses TOLD ME!

America has been lied to since day 1 of this covid-19 FLU media mass hysteria!
The covid-19 vaccine will be availible this year.
My son is one of the heads of clinical trials at PFIZER.

SLAVA ISUSU CHRISTU! DOMINUS VOBISCUM!

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VERY REV TOM LOYA is a good and holy Byzantine True Catholic Priest!
I have know him for over 40 years and he also comes from a Priestly Byzantine Catholic Family.
Very Rev Tom Loya and RC Father Altman are "voices crying out in the wilderness!"
Catholic hierarchy ARE NOT LISTENING, they only listen to their democratic secular government PAYMASTERS and do as they are told
like cancelling Easter and depriving We The Faithful of ALL CATHOLIC SACRAMENTS for over 4 months!
Now we must Receive The Eucharist in A PAPER CUB like cocktail hor doeuvres and use our fingers to get the Eucharist out of the cup and than lick the inside of the cup to get the rest of the holy substance out!
A DISGRACE!

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I think this is a proper link -[img]https://www.parma.org/documents/2020/10/Loya%20Press%20Release.pdf[/img] The one given above doesn't work anymore than the ridiculous assertion that the current pandemic is a scam or hoax. God save us.

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What is going on? How about some more tangibles, like links. What exactly did Fr. Loya say and when did he say it?

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Originally Posted by Utroque
I think this is a proper link -[img]https://www.parma.org/documents/2020/10/Loya%20Press%20Release.pdf[/img] The one given above doesn't work anymore than the ridiculous assertion that the current pandemic is a scam or hoax. God save us.

Thank you for selling out our freedom, both personal and religious. People like you are supporting the evil which is the monumental lies which continue to be told about this virus. Why is it that the facts about the virus are of no concern to you, but instead you are apparently hanging on every rotten, lying word that CNN, the lying media in general, and our corrupt government are spewing forth? There is so much information out there which shows this to be a completely bogus event, ginned up to destroy the presidency of President Trump and hopefully to take over in November the White House. We even saw it last night at the VP debate when the first piece of crap out of Kamala's mouth was accussations that President Trump caused the 210,000 SUPPOSED deaths by Covid 19. It is all political and has been from the beginning. The whole point has been to destroy Trump by destroying the economy.

FYI my willingly ignorant friend, the CDC (are they official enough for you?) has stated that in order for there to be a pandemic, the death rate from all cases must be 7% or higher. Right now it is less than 1%. The CDC and WHO have admitted that masks do not stop the virus. A mask to the virus is like a chain link fence to a mosquito. Do you even care for these facts, or have they got you so terrified that you won't even leave your house for fear that if you take one breath you will drop dead? That was the kind of "news" that the lying liberal media was promoting when this first started. You would literally see people jumping away from each other in fear if they got too close.

And as for the Church??

Well, here's my opinion: (and it mirrors what Fr. Tom said)

https://http4281.wordpress.com/2020/03/30/closing-churches-the-easy-way/

https://http4281.wordpress.com/2020/08/07/giving-power-to-evil/

https://http4281.wordpress.com/2020/05/23/waiting-to-become-orthodox/

One final thing -- should those who follow He who is Truth participate in promoting and following LIES???

I leave that to your conscience.


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Originally Posted by ajk
What is going on? How about some more tangibles, like links. What exactly did Fr. Loya say and when did he say it?

Here's a pretty good one: [img]
[/img] He falls short of calling the pandemic a hoax, but he needs to be fact-checked on the Black Plague and some other assertions.

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Originally Posted by ajk
What is going on? How about some more tangibles, like links. What exactly did Fr. Loya say and when did he say it?

Here's one. He calls it out as a FRAUD!!!


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Originally Posted by Irish_Ruthenian
Originally Posted by Utroque
I think this is a proper link -[img]https://www.parma.org/documents/2020/10/Loya%20Press%20Release.pdf[/img] The one given above doesn't work anymore than the ridiculous assertion that the current pandemic is a scam or hoax. God save us.

FYI my willingly ignorant friend, the CDC (are they official enough for you?) has stated that in order for there to be a pandemic, the death rate from all cases must be 7% or higher.
From what I see the CDC, Changing Age Distribution of the COVID-19 Pandemic [cdc.gov], and WHO, The classical definition of a pandemic is not elusive [who.int], consider Covid-19 a pandemic, and the designation is not based on the number of cases or fatalities but spread. Do you have a link documenting the " 7% or higher" criterion?

Also, the "my willingly ignorant friend" comment is unworthy, especially of anyone who may have good points: don't think it, and if you do think it, don't say it, and then, as we all should, lose it..

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Originally Posted by Utroque
I think this is a proper link -[img]https://www.parma.org/documents/2020/10/Loya%20Press%20Release.pdf[/img] The one given above doesn't work anymore than the ridiculous assertion that the current pandemic is a scam or hoax. God save us.

FYI my willingly ignorant friend, the CDC (are they official enough for you?) has stated that in order for there to be a pandemic, the death rate from all cases must be 7% or higher.
From what I see the CDC, Changing Age Distribution of the COVID-19 Pandemic [cdc.gov], and WHO, The classical definition of a pandemic is not elusive [who.int], consider Covid-19 a pandemic, and the designation is not based on the number of cases or fatalities but spread. Do you have a link documenting the " 7% or higher" criterion?

Also, the "my willingly ignorant friend" comment is unworthy, especially of anyone who may have good points: don't think it, and if you do think it, don't say it, and then, as we all should, lose it..

"Willingly ignorant" is not an insult. It is a simple statement of fact. It is beyond strange to talk with some people, give them facts, and watch their eyes glaze over as their thought process cannot assimilate the facts you have just given them. An example would be talking with a Protestant and showing them quotes from the Early Fathers which show that the Eucharist has always been seen as the Body and Blood of Christ. Likewise, when you tell a pro-abort that children are being aborted alive and then killed for their organs, they glaze over. They do not want to hear anything that interrupts the comfort zone they have ensconced themselves into. They will shake their heads once or twice to clear them, then say "No, that's not true" Even if you SHOW them pictures of dismembered babies or statements from abortionists who admit they are doing this, they will not believe it. The alternative is just too painful. Therefore, the alternative is to willingly turn from the facts and stay in ignorance of them by claiming they are false. Calling the opposition a liar is a time-tested response, and for some people, it has worked very well over the years to deflate the truth and make the one bringing the facts look silly.

I don't remember where I read the 7% figure. It's probably lost in a swamp of bookmarked quotes I have that prove that this scamdemic is a filthy, vile lie of the worst sort, a politcal entrapment designed to help Democrats. I hope on November 3rd they get their shorts handed to them in the elections. If I find the quote I'll post it.

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Originally Posted by Irish_Ruthenian
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What is going on? How about some more tangibles, like links. What exactly did Fr. Loya say and when did he say it?

Here's one. He calls it out as a FRAUD!!!

I hear him call it a "hoax" not a fraud. It would be better if he could (somehow) provide references for his numbers and statistics. The general reporting of the details of the numbers and statistics, and their interpretation, has been sloppy science. Maybe it's just being dumbed-down too much for the public. This, however, is fodder for hysterical and shallow reporting by a press and media that present sensationalism as truth. As a result, i don't know what to believe. So I appreciate Fr. Loya's frustration and would only offer to go a little easier on church leaders, bishops, (some) politicians etc. While they do blunder, their legitimate fear is that they are misrepresented, allow themselves to be misrepresented and stereotyped and shouted down. At the least, Fr. Loya here is asking good questions and adding a needed counterpoint in the discussion.

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