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This was written by the new priest at the local Tridentine-rite parish church in metro Atlanta, St. Francis de Sales. I am submitting it to this specific forum because I believe it to be a great exegesis on the history and sensibility of veils. Since veils and headcoverings are also worn by Eastern Orthodox and Eastern Catholic women, I am putting it in Byz F & W instead of Town Hall. If you wish, look on this article in a purely Byzantie context.

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The Meaning of the Veil (Part 2)
Theological meaning of the veil

The tradition of women wearing veils in church is based on the words of St. Paul: "For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. That is why a woman ought to wear a veil on her head, for the sake of the angels" (1 Cor. 11:7-10).

Now the first thing to notice is that this is a very mysterious passage that initially raises more questions than it answers. The reasoning appears to be as follows: woman is inferior or subordinate to man; she is his servant; she was made for him. Hence, she must wear a veil as a sign of her subjection and a reminder of her servant status. As one can see by thumbing through Evangelical writings and, at the opposite pole, modern feminist critiques, this is usually the way these verses, not to mention similar statements in other Pauline letters, are interpreted; and so interpreted, they do paint a rather unpleasant picture, not very flattering to women or to St. Paul. Many women today conclude: "Veils were a symbol of women's oppression, and Paul is showing himself to be a misogynist." This common way of reading St. Paul must be answered, not ignored, if the true meaning of this symbol is to be discovered. For a thoughtful Catholic woman the question arises: Is the veil still a meaningful religious symbol? Is it an antiquated tradition, or, worse, is the veil a sign of self-negation, a denial of a woman's identity, freedom, and equality? A careful reading of St. Paul's texts, understood in light of Scripture and Catholic tradition, will clear up confusion on this thorny issue.

Before attempting to interpret this passage's meaning, however, an obscurity in the text itself should be noted. As biblical scholarship has pointed out, Paul actually says nothing about veils as such. The Greek word he uses, which is usually translated as "veil," is exousia, meaning "power" or "authority." Thus, a very literal translation of the passage would read: "the woman should have a power [or: authority] over her head." One occasionally sees the text expanded into a paraphrase: ". . . a power over her head, symbolized by a veil." This is a good bit clearer, but still, why a veil? Having made a simple point about the word itself, modern scholarship has no more light to shed on the matter. We must turn to the tradition of the Church, our sure guide for an answer.

According to some of the Fathers and Doctors of the Church, this passage refers to the angels who veil their faces before the presence of God, worshipping before his throne. "I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and his train filled the temple. Above him stood the seraphim; each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. And one called to another and said: 'Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts; the whole earth is full of his glory" (Is. 6:2). The angels cover or veil their faces as a sign of reverence before God's glorious power and majesty; they are under his authority. St. Paul is saying, then, that just as the angels cover their faces before the throne of God, so women ought to do likewise at worship.

But why only the women? Are not men likewise standing in the presence of God? The answer can be found in a series of analogies that St. Paul establishes earlier in the same chapter. "The head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God" (1 Cor. 11:3). That is, God the Father stands to Christ as Christ stands to the husband, and Christ stands to the husband as the husband stands to his wife (Father : Christ :: Christ : husband :: husband : wife). Notice how remarkable this analogy is: the Christian wife is being compared to the Second Person of the Trinity, the Son of the Father, in his relation to the Father. Hence, the ultimate meaning of a woman's vocation as a wife and mother is to participate, imitate, and manifest the mystery of Christ's mission. Her self-giving is to mirror the self-giving of Christ.

To unfold the meaning of this teaching further, we should consider what St. Paul says in his Epistle to the Ephesians where, providing another analogy, he adds another dimension to the symbolism. "Wives, be subject to your husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the Church, and is himself its Savior. As the Church is subject to Christ, so let wives also be subject in everything to their husbands" (Eph. 5:22-24). The husband stands to the wife as Christ stands to the Church. From this, we see that by the same token, a wife is called to imitate and participate in the work of the Church, who follows Christ; and Christ follows the Father. A great supernatural mystery is foreshadowed in earthly things: the obedience of wives is rooted in and flows from Christ's obedience to the Father and in the Church's submission to her Lord.

The feminist objections could arise here again. However, it is of utmost importance to see that the obedience to which a woman binds herself in marriage is a choice, a response from the heart to a vocation from the Lord, even as a nun vows obedience to her earthly Superior as part of her vocation to serve the one Lord. The obedience of the wife is given within the context of a sacrament; it is not a matter of some natural dependence or inferiority. A wife's freely chosen submission to her husband, who stands in persona Christi, does not jeopardize a woman's identity. Quite to the contrary, this sacrifice fulfils it: "the last shall be first." In the same way, the Virgin Mary's total obedience and humility is not her disgrace but her glory, the way to her innermost participation in her Son's work of redemption. A wife submits herself to her husband primarily for the love of God, in obedience to his call. Nor does this sacrifice of self, sustained by the grace of God and properly understood by her, endanger the status of the wife as equal to her husband.

The Son is co-equal with the Father (as Origen held, and as was afterwards defined), yet the Son is obedient to the Father. A thing so sweetly known in many relations of human love is, beyond imagination, present in the midmost secrets of heaven. For the Son in His eternal Now desires subordination, and it is His. He wills to be so; He co-inheres obediently and filially in the Fther, as the Father authoritatively and paternally co-inheres in Him. And the whole Three persons are co-eternal together - and co-equal. (Charles Williams, Descent of the Dove)

Within the Blessed Trinity, the distinction of Persons does not endanger the unity of the Godhead, essentially and equally shared by Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. This hierarchy-within-equality in the Trinity is reflected in the order of salvation brought about through the Father's sending of Christ, in the bridal relationship of Christ and the Church, and again in the order of marriage.
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Dear Logos Teen,

Pardon the pun, but, my hat is off to the good father who wrote this piece. Please give us his name!

As you remember, we had a thread that touched on this topic some time ago. I believe that my response to you on your request that someone explain "on account of the angels" was most inadequate by comparison to his.

Thank you for posting this very thorough and very important explanation.

In Christ,
Andrew

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i think overrall and most importantly a headcovering or veil is to endorse modesty and self respect.

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Glory to Jesus Christ!
Glory to Him Forever!

Dear all,

Beautiful. That article was beautiful. God bless you for posting it, Teen smile .

A sinner,

Adam


Glory to Jesus Christ! Glory Forever!
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Yes, thanks Teen. That article trancends any East/West liturgical differences and goes right to the heart of the theology behind the practice. My wife, who has been championing this cause for many years, loved this and had me print it out to distribute as soon as she read it. That's Father Fromageot's parish, isn't it?

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I believe this topic has been discussed at length in this forum before. I am a Byzantine woman who chooses to wear a headcovering, and I fail to see why this topic holds such intense interest for men.

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Respectfully, I'm not sure I would call thanking someone for sharing an article "intense interest" nor sharing a spouse's response as well. God bless.

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Dear Miriam,

I also couldn't personally say that it is of intense importance for me. (I think that women should wear them but own my wife does not, wear one, that is, althougth she certainly would were it the norm of the community). At the same time, I believe that all who seek to understand God also seek to understand the proper relationship of the things that are specifically His.

This is why the article is so awesome, because it so beautifully helped us to understand how all of these vitally important aspects of our lives as Christians, husbands and wives, men and women, boys and girls, have relationship to one another.

That is the note that it struck with me.

With love in Christ,
Andrew

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Dear Miriam,

Well, I think I'm the only truly honest man on this thread.

Religious reasons notwithstanding, I think there is nothing more comely or beautiful than a woman in a veil.

My priest-friend's presbytera wears a gorgeous black veil leaving only her beautiful face exposed.

Our culture finds "sexiness" in women wearing denuded fashions.

On the contrary, there is nothing more stimulating and intensely interesting about a woman demonstrating the values of modesty, humility, piety and sensitivity.

Alex

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Now, that's honesty wink . Yet another pat on the back rightfully earned by Dr. Roman.

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Dear Diak,

I was just kidding about the honesty part, Big Guy!

I know you find women in veils just as much a turn-on as I do! smile smile

Alex

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Well ladies, Guess we better ditch those veils, since the "weaker sex" seems to find 'em so stimulating. Wouldn't want to be a distraction to prayer, would we???? wink biggrin wink

Sharon

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Dear Mother Sharon,

Actually, being surrounded in Church by so many beautiful ladies in veils - that truly does provoke me to MORE prayers . . . wink

Alex

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Quote from Teen:
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The tradition of women wearing veils in church is based on the words of St. Paul: "For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. That is why a woman ought to wear a veil on her head, for the sake of the angels" (1 Cor. 11:7-10).
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My questions are, Are women bound to wear veils in church? Do the words of St. Paul in Sacred Scripture make a requirement?

Since V2 did the church magesterium loose the veil requirement (if there was one)? I have not been able to find an answer in the Documents of V2, Canon law, the General Instruction to the Roman Missal, or any other document from the Vatican that I am aware of.

All I know about the practice of women wearing a head covering in church is that after V2 in the USA veils were dumped by almost all women.

Head coverings for women, required by Scripture, church law, or practiced by custom?

I'm seeking an authoritative answer.

Paul

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Dear Paul,

Well, if it's an authoritative answer you really want . . . wink

In the RC Church, there is no law, nor ever was, concerning veils. It was a custom that was, at one time, universally practiced.

This custom is so strong in the Orthodox Churches that many will have head-coverings at the door for those women who arrive without one of their own.

St Paul's words do not make a law, but a religious custom with many admirable spiritual qualities about it.

Alex

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