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I was just wondering why we never hear about the apparitions of Our Lady of Zeitun. It seems the apparitions appeared over a long period of time. there are even pictures here http://members.aol.com/bjw1106/marian7.htm . It seems it was witnessed by many Coptic's and one would think that there were substantial numbers of Orthodox and probably many Catholics too. There were also many muslims there and also the Egyptian President. I am RC and never hear about this and would like to see if maybe this celebrated more in Eastern Christianity.

I have heard that they were faked. That some one used a projector. No words were spoken. The same was said of Our Lady of Knock in Ireland.
Have any miracles occurred in Egypt? Have any Muslims been converted?

Ouch !! Better not say anything about Our Lady of Knock here. A very very popular devotion among the Irish [ and Scots ] here

Angela

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[QB]I have heard that they were faked. That some one used a projector. No words were spoken. The same was said of Our Lady of Knock in Ireland.
Have any miracles occurred in Egypt?

Many documented healings took place durring the appirations. I have never heard anywhere in many years of studying the Coptic Church that the appirations were faked. Sounds like anti-church propaganda to me.

Michael

I don't know if they where faked but it seems to have church approval and according to that site even the president who was a marxist witnessed and seems to think they where credible. I think the Coptic patriarch or bishop even thanked the police for investigating the matter. I had not heard of the healings..

Dear Bonaventure,

Our priest, Fr. Yuri Fedoriw (+memory eternal!) wrote a booklet on Our Lady of Zeitoun.

He himself visited Egypt and spoke to people who saw the apparitions, including a photographer who snapped a picture of Our Lady standing on the cupola of the Church. When the light of the flash went on, he was cured of blindness in one eye.

"Zeitoun" means "Olive Oil" and symbolizes, of course, Divine Grace.

Was it fake?

A Muslim gas attendant first the apparition and thought it was a woman who had climbed onto the cupola.

He rushed out to yell at the person to come down since she could fall.

It then occurred to him that it would be impossible for someone to stand on a rounded cupola like that.

Egyptian Protestants, including the leader of the Evangelical Baptist Union of Egypt, came out to praise the Mother of Christ and address her directly in prayer and praise.

Muslims laced the front of the Church with expensive carpets in honour of the Mother of Jesus.

Even the Egyptian President saw the apparition.

Was it fake?

Ask the people who saw Her and continue to invoke Her to this day.

The Coptic Church affirmed Zeitoun's reality, just as the Latin Church affirmed the reality of Lourdes and Fatima.

And judging by all the conversions, God certainly used that experience to bring many people closer to Him through His Mother.

Fr. Fedoriw himself met Muslims converted by the apparitions.

In addition, many Protestants found devotion to Mary through them. Perhaps they are not Coptic Orthodox, but they have assumed an important aspect of Orthodox-Catholic doctrine and practice.

I'd shake a finger at you, Mike, but I don't want Stuart telling me I'm playing pope again, even a Coptic pope .

Alex

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