www.byzcath.org Forums Faith & Christian Life Faith & Theology Slava bread cloths, wedding scarves--Something Incredible

I recently found a great source for Slava cloths, trobojka wedding sashes, peshkiri wedding scarves and icon cloths.

I ordered a Slava bread cloth and an icon cloth from Carmela Tempero in N. Huntigdon, PA. and they just arrived. They're amazing--fine linen and well-sewn to specifications Carm and I worked out over the phone at her expense. The shipping cost was one dollar less than quoted and she even sent me the dollar!

I wish that I could attach a photo of the cloths but I don't know how.

I'm so happy about this! I have never seen such a beautiful Slava bread cloth.

If anyone needs such items, check Carm out at cmtempero@comcast.net. She will send you photos of her work and work with you directly.

She's not running a business and she's not thinking like a businessperson; she's just doing great and inspired work!


I feel so blessed!

Be well.

bob r.

Bob,
Excuse my ignorance, but what IS a Slava Bread CLoth? In all these years I've never heard of it. Is it a basket cover for Resurrection?
Thanks,
Sam

Its the cloth people put under or over their Slava bread on the day of their Slava.

Now, maybe they aren't so common in the US today?

Carm can send you photos by e-mail.

I'm still feeling so blessed just knowing her and having some of her work!

Some day, I think, her sewing will be collector's items and an important part of our religious history in the US.

Be well.

bob r.

Bob I found an article on the Slava, I guess it is the name day for the whole family = the patron saint the family is named from anyway here is a link
http://www.holycross-hermitage.com/pages/Orthodox_Life/serb_slava.htm

This is a pretty good article. THANKS!

I would argue with the point that "The Slava is a purely religious celebration..." because I know atheists who celebrate Slavas as well and because Slavas can be held for churches and organizations. I'm not arguing with the author, understand, but just drawing out that this is something which has gone deeply into the culture and into the Serbian national consciousness, as it should.

I don't think that we do violence to the Slava by adopting it elsewhere. If you're reasonably certain of the date your family adopted Christianity--for instance, if a region they came from has a particular regional Saint Day or if you know the day through family legend or research--why not mark it with the appropriate service? My Serbian prayerbooks all give the appropriate services.

On the other hand, it might disturb some Serbs to know that something so meaningful is being adopted and even slightly altered. Serbs are the only ones with Slavas as we understand them.

I've been to so many Slavas...for families, churches, organizations...I lost count years ago. Slavas are legal holidays in Serbia now, though the number of recognized Slavas has been cut down.

One Love.

bob r.

This is a pretty good article. THANKS!

I would argue with the point that "The Slava is a purely religious celebration..." because I know atheists who celebrate Slavas as well and because Slavas can be held for churches and organizations. I'm not arguing with the author, understand, but just drawing out that this is something which has gone deeply into the culture and into the Serbian national consciousness, as it should.

I don't think that we do violence to the Slava by adopting it elsewhere. If you're reasonably certain of the date your family adopted Christianity--for instance, if a region they came from has a particular regional Saint Day or if you know the day through family legend or research--why not mark it with the appropriate service? My Serbian prayerbooks all give the appropriate services.

On the other hand, it might disturb some Serbs to know that something so meaningful is being adopted and even slightly altered. Serbs are the only ones with Slavas as we understand them.

I've been to so many Slavas...for families, churches, organizations...I lost count years ago. Slavas are legal holidays in Serbia now, though the number of recognized Slavas has been cut down.

One Love.

bob r.

This is a pretty good article. THANKS!

I would argue with the point that "The Slava is a purely religious celebration..." because I know atheists who celebrate Slavas as well and because Slavas can be held for churches and organizations. I'm not arguing with the author, understand, but just drawing out that this is something which has gone deeply into the culture and into the Serbian national consciousness, as it should.

I don't think that we do violence to the Slava by adopting it elsewhere. If you're reasonably certain of the date your family adopted Christianity--for instance, if a region they came from has a particular regional Saint Day or if you know the day through family legend or research--why not mark it with the appropriate service? My Serbian prayerbooks all give the appropriate services.

On the other hand, it might disturb some Serbs to know that something so meaningful is being adopted and even slightly altered. Serbs are the only ones with Slavas as we understand them.

I've been to so many Slavas...for families, churches, organizations...I lost count years ago. Slavas are legal holidays in Serbia now, though the number of recognized Slavas has been cut down.

One Love.

bob r.

For those looking for more information on the Slava, prosphora.org has a nice section dedicated to it:

http://www.prosphora.org/page21.html

Also, you can watch a RealPlayer video of Patriarch Pavle of the Serbian Orthodox Church celebrating a Slava for St. Sava at this website:

http://svetisava.eunet.yu/

The video of the Slava service is under the heading "Rezanje slavskog kolača."

Dave

All,
Thank you for the info. How very interesting!
Sam

Bob,

"Now, maybe they aren't so common in the US today?"

The Slava service is a Serbian tradition of which most other Byzantines aren't aware. Nothing wrong with adopting it, however.

Fr. Deacon Lance

I was referring to the cloths, not to the service.

One Love.

bob

Chtec,

I didn't know some Serbian priests wear high-back
phelons!

Ungcsertezs

Good taste in vestments, I'd say.

While the fullness of the Slava is not necessarily celebrated the same way, name days are quite often kept with solemnity by many Eastern Christians.

We always try to invite the priest over for the namedays of our kids or have a Moleben.
FDD

"Some" is the operative word.

Most Serb priests, as far as I can tell, wear low-back phelonia.

Dave

Dear Dave,

Would it not be true to say that the high-backs tend to be among the Russians and those Orthodox with close ties to the Russians? And that low-backs are Greek and those who prefer to be closer to the Greeks rather than to the Russians (i.e. Ukrainians )?

Alex