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Thanks for your welcome Alex! Now that the elections are over I'll come back for a bit. I couldn't resist this discussion about Old Catholics. You know my interest in them. I did make one mistake in my post about that I was too late to correct. Archbishop Mathew was consecrated in 1908, not 1980. And there are a couple of jurisdictions in the USA that have canonized him and call him St. Arnold Harris Mathew, but I can't remember which ones and when they celebrate his feast. Don

Dear Don,

Isn't that wonderful!

I really don't care WHO canonizes, as long as they do!

You belong here (whether I really do is a point of some debate, however . . . ).

I don't know much about the Old Catholics, except that they have many names.

And the ones I know about are some of the very best Christians I've ever been blessed to come across.

Present company included!

Alex

Dear Alice,

And please know that I didn't defend you JUST because your name sounds like mine . . .

Kalo sarisote sto-plio!

Alex

Personally, I believe he was truly a holy man, but unfortunately used by those who weren't so holy. And many in the Old Catholic movement have been like him...some were truly wishing to bring the Good New of Christ to men and women that the mainstream Churches couldn't or wouldn't reach. But I admit there were also many who were in it for the prestige of being called Father or Excellency and wearing pretty clothes. I was lucky to find a group that truly sought to serve God's people.

Alex, I do have to work on teaching you a few more Greek phrases than just 'Welcome on board the ship'!!!!

In Christ,
Alice

Bless, Father Don,

Actually, I like their clothes . . .

Alex

Dear Alice,

It's because when we have you here, it's smooth sailing . . .

Alex

Dear Don

A very warm welcome back - it is good to 'see' you again

Anhelyna

I'm delurking because I want to address the subtle digs being made at me.

She was treated just fine. She overreacted to perfectly reasonable questions.

For example, this is from the "bumper sticker" tread:

Hal's post:
"OK, people - this was a light-hearted thread and it appeared as if people were having some fun with it. Was it really necessary to be a kill-joy? UGH!

Yours,

hal"

IA's response:
"Moe; I gave the Irish Seal Sanctuary link above in my mail; here it is again...
irishsealsanctuary.ie
And if you ask Google for Seal Slaughter Ireland; there are many sites.
Hal; I am truly sorry you were offended, but many threads go off in new directions as things crop up that do that. Father Gregory's post did just that of course. Yes what has happened here is shocking and appalling; makes many go to the Guest Book on the Irish Seal Sanctuary Site see link above. And add their comments to the guest book as support for all of us who are trying to get these atrocities stopped in His Dear and Holy Name Who made all and loves all; Jesus . I had hoped that that would happen here rather than what did. This world and these creatures matter to so many. There is no need at all for comment especially not of that ilk,; simply avoid what you do not like as we all have to do, in simple forbearance. Bless you this day. I can say this now I am unsubbing from the forum. Your post was the last straw, simply. As Captain Oates said, " I am going outside and I will be gone a while..." "
The "last straw"...huh?
She was not attacked by anyone here (including me). She took any questioning as an attack on her person. Like I wrote, she completely overreacted.

Let's not even get into the spiritual condescending manner of her posts.

When I went through my little 'thing' here last week I questioned myself. I thought that your judgments of me had merit. But this IA thing illustrates that there's no 'window into someone's soul.'

Dear Jennifer,

I thought that she wrote beautifully and very spiritually to you.

Ofcourse, that is my opinion.

I have noticed on forums like these that it is not often what a person says, but WHO is saying it.

By the way, I honestly wasn't even thinking of you when I wrote that Irish Anchoress was treated badly. So, who is feeling attacked?


God bless,
Alice

I simply asked her to clarify a confusing statement; I did not mean to stir things up so. I was a bit put off by her response when Jennifer asked for another clarification earlier; she accused J of "attacking" her, which was a bit much.
I certainly don't object to Old Catholics posting here, or Protestants or whoever, but when she claimed to be in communion with Canadian Byzantines, and thus with Rome I wanted an elaboration. I guess I got it, big time...

"Beautifully" and "spiritually?"

Well, I respectfully disagree. When was she "beautiful" and "spiritual?" When she was freaking out about me attacking her when I asked her a question? Or when she created a thread implying that I was "spoiling" her time on the forum? Or when she wrote that civil unions were satanic?

BTW, I am hardly the only one who felt that she was spiritually condescending. I have received numerous PMs from people telling me that they thought that she was being holier than thou.

I think your observation about "who" the person is is more important than what they say is really what is going on her. She jumped on my case (for no good reason, btw) and you immediately assumed that meant she was in the right.
She was treated fine here and simply overreacted to questions. It's just as simple as that.

Dear Jennifer,

(By the way, I have a name too!)

I didn't follow EVERY thread and EVERY post but I did see one post where I.A. was very spiritually kind to you.

If that is what you consider condescending, then you wouldn't like my spiritual Father. He is an elder from Mt. Athos and most people think that when he speaks like that--that they are hearing a saint.

I was brought up to be respectful to those in religious vocations. Some have commanded that respect and others have let me down greatly in the respect department, but I will never address them rudely nor would I allow my grown children to...

When rudeness prevails, society falls apart.

Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen (of blessed memory)once said:

"To be polite is to be charitable,
to be charitable is to be loving,
to be loving is to be like God...."

Peace,
In Christ our Lord,
Alice

After reading some of the posts on the Forum in recent days a friend of mine made a very wise observation. He said: �The trouble with opening your mouth is that you reveal something about who you are.�

What have our recent posts revealed to us about who we are?

We are nasty. We are judgmental. We are condescending. We are mean. We are petty. We are uncharitable.

As followers of Jesus Christ we should be slow to judge, respectful of one another, mature and gracious.

Now that we have fallen down in our sinfulness, how about we extend a hand to help one another up again?

Enough said. This thread is about the Rosary. Please limit your comments in this thread to that topic.

I am daring to mail again; alerted to this. And it is all far worse than I "saw".
Whether you agree or understand matters not really; the only person who has truth and Jesus here is Alice. Bless you! Whether you agree, our Order is in Communion with the Byzantine Catholics who ARE in communion with Rome. If you feel the need, mail Arch-Abbess Mother Matthew Peter.
And no man can order anyone not to receive the Body and Blood of Jesus; He does not belong to any one denomination or person. He is Himself, THANK JESUS. I hae received Holy Communion in every Church since I came to Ireland, and always with the bidding of the Prists' they say" The denomination matters not a whit; IT IS YOUR LIFESTYLE"; and that is their choice freely and fully. And within the legislation. See if your are so inclined the encyical last year. I have the Rseerved Sacrament here for daily communion as I am too ill to go out.That is my Life and my Joy, my strength and my Love. I will also break bread with anyone in His Name. And pray with anyone ditto. And respecte all preists and pastors etc, as those called by Jesus to shepherd His Flock. The true Church is in the heart and mind and life of everyone who believes in Jesus and who strives to live their lives by His Holy Words; I know a Baptist child in Uganda who is full of the Holy Spirit and who radiates Jesus and is winning souls to Him; demons are being cast out and people are being healed. She has never heard of RC or any of this stuff here.
She is THE CHURCH. More fully thn \i will ever be.
My own awareness ios that the divisions are not "heresy" or schism; they always follow periods of gross abuse int he existing Church and are the Movement of the Holy Spirit to renew true faith. \I welcome that. IF the existing denoms were pure that would never be necessray.
and who are we to say who God gives ordination to? THAT IS HIS CHOICE; how dare any of us say else. \re Mary; I am waiting on my Lord as I said; I trust Him; He will bring me to His Mother when it is time. The rosary means a great deal to me; but I , as I said already, do not have the energy tp pray it just now; i love making thema nd thatis a solace to me.Itis a giving I cannot hsre in. Always I have stautes and opictures of Mary; when she is ready....
As bernadette said, "the stream is not for me"; I bedn to is will in that.
A great deal fo what ios here is BECAUSE again as Alice asys, folk try itn INFLICT rules from the OUTSIDE. It does not work and especially whent here is severe illness as with me. It has to come from within.
Anchoreses have windows!!! Many come to me from all denoms seeking prayer. I give freely to all.
Much of what is here is nit-picking.
We ARE "real Catholic Nuns"; oh we get this kind of thing all the time; we simply refer folk to the web site then quit. Shake the dust off our feet in great sadness. We are Catholic and in Communion with Rome.
Those are facts. In Jesus
As Mary has said, and others, denomination matters not a whit to God; we are not going to be asked what our "label" is, but what love we have for Jesus and all His people. There are many in the Church who are not int he Church and vice versa as Alice said
If youa re of that school that says that Orthoxy is the ony church; God says else.
"Holier than thou"? oh WOW! see my websitre. I LIVE all i say i do. ALL of it. in love. Again, that is somthing I get all the time. Bess your
I came here to this forum hoping to find the love of Jesus and abopve all to give; I have asked that my details be remioved fromt he database. That sio what Jesus asked me in person to do last night. I am in Holy Obedience about that. PLEASE DO THIS NOW. I love my Lord and am His Cloistered Bride. That si all that matters to me. The rest is window dressing
My time on this earth is drwing near its end, and that gives ofetn a wisdom and an chaing as we draw nearer "home".
I say this to you; you are becoming as sounding cymbals only. Please, turn to Jesus Who is love. Stop all this;love alone. What I have rerd here is shameful. JESUS IS LOVE. ALONE AND ALWAYS; that is all and all and all. the rest is just window dressing and matters nto an iota. Jesus has tole mt hat in person and that si what I live to my dying breath; nt too far hence thankfully I go to Him with opne arms, and embrace all with Him in that love; rich blessings shower you all; angels watch over you
See what is written in Isaiah and again said by Jesus....."Lest they be converetd"; too ill to find the extcrt words now. Hard hearts over there; that need melting; heats of stone that need to bceome hearst o flesh; and oh, that is a painfl, aching process; God lovee you all!