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I have had an exchange of e-mails with Archdeacon John, inviting him to join us here. He hasn't yet indicated whether he'll accept the invite; I'll let you know. He did point out to me though that the Society of Our Lady of Grace will celebrate its centenary this year.

Those who want to convey congratulatory messages to the Society could either e-mail the Archdeacon at

Italogreek@aol.com

or

Byzantineologs@hotmail.com

or write them in the guestbook on their website:

Our Lady of Grace Society Guestbook [htmlgear.tripod.com]

Many years,

Neil


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Dear Brethren,

The following monograph deals very extensively with the suppression of the Italo-Greek Rite in a particular part of Italy, the southern tip of Puglia known as Salento.

I don't believe that the work is available in English; only Italian.

"La Fine del Rito Greco in Terra d'Otranto" by Giuseppe Lisi published in 1988 in Brindisi by Amici della "A. DeLeo."

An excellent work that shows the deliberate insertion of Latin "biritualist" priests into the Byzantine Rite parishes, the start of Latin Rite worship in those parishes, and the eventual suppression of the Byzantine Rite by replacing them with monoritualist Latin Rite priests.

It also sheds light on the ongoing view by Rome, throughout the 1500s for sure, of the Constantinoploitan Church as "a sister Church" fully in communion with Rome.

I'll try to translate and post an excerpt or two in the coming days.

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For all the Italo-Greeks out there, can someone write down the following words in greek? I want to make sure that I say the correct word and not something else. biggrin

Grant it our Lord
Lord Have Mercy

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Paraschou, Kyrie
Kyrie, Eleison

Evkharisto!

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Dear Neil,

FYI, I contacted the Cathedral, thanks to your link, and they do offer a number of Akathists to Italian saints at five bucks a pop! smile

God bless, Irishman!

p.s. How do you celebrate St Patrick's Day? How could it be celebrated in the Byzantine liturgical tradition (including the blessing of the shamrock)? We have a number of Irish in our parish and I'm pushing to have a special celebration of St Paddy's Day!

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Evkharisto!
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Poli kala!

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Alex, make a green kolyva with a shamrock in the middle instead of a cross, have the priest bless it, and have him over for a porter or two... smile

My sons and I will be playing Irish music after the St. Patrick's day parade this year - you are most welcome and the pints are on me. wink

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forget the porter and the shamrocks - make it Irish single malt!

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Just don't be bringing Guinness around Our Lady of Wisdom.

Archimandrite Vivona visited Ireland many years back, and had a few pints of real Irish Guinness (not the stuff they water down for export to the U.S.)

Apparently it hit him like a ton of bricks, and he felt like kopros the next day. Now he won't go near the stuff...

(Fr. Francis has about a zillion stories, but only two of them are alcohol related. Pot luck dinners at OLOW are a real treat, because we get to hear Pappas tell his stories. The best ones have his mother in them.)


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Thea,

Welcome to the forum. We've been in need of representation from our Italo-Greek-Albanian Sister Church. (I've been trying to convince ArchDeacon John from Our Lady of Grace to join us here, but without success so far.)

I'm with Archimandrite Francis on the Guinness; IMHO (hmm, has there ever been an Irishman with a humble opinion :rolleyes: ?), it would best be used as crankcase oil wink .

Many years,

Neil


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Neil,

I'll pretend I didn't read your blasphemy of the venerable Irish brew I dearly love. wink

Fr. Deacon Lance


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Dear Deacon Lance,

If you can take Guinness, then you truly ARE a much better man than I!

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I'm quite fond of Guinness myself, though I've only had the American version. I love that thing it does with the rings of foam rising to the top of the glass...


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I think I will vest in green on St. Patrick's day and stand on the bar and pronounce anathemas on anyone who refuses libation from Guiness, Beamish.... (for what that's worth). smile

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