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#116642 02/04/04 03:59 PM
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Dear Rony,

I'll try and find out his name and address - if you have a Chaldean calendar, he would be the main parish priest in Toronto.

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Dear Alex:

Unfortunately, I only have the caldendar for the two Chaldean eparchies of the U.S. If it becomes difficutlt for you to track down his name and address, then that's ok, I can always find out through my parish.

God bless,

Rony

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Dear Rony,

I'll see if I can locate him - I knew him some years ago when our Basilian Fathers let our Chaldean community use their college chapel for the Qurbono - and until they got their own church.

In the Holy Saints of Seleucia-Ctesiphon!

Alex

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Thank you, Neil...just getting around to it. I appreciate the information, and am grateful for the links.

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hummm An oldie but goodie...just love to drag up old discussions biggrin Our Angela is not Eastern yet, Teen is still a high school Teen

#116647 02/24/06 09:18 PM
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WOW, I also heard something relating to this discussion. confused

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Angela is a fully paid up easterner these days. She is on the Ukr side of the street now. All has been sorted and I have seen the pics where she was sworn in. Oh yes definately one of us now...seen the scars on the forehead biggrin if they were any longer she could have become Australian as well. Still we often can't have everything in life.

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Isnt actually the oldest liturgy that of Hippolytus Bsp of Rome?
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I dont think anyone is still using that, while the Lit. of St James is still in use. I note that there is a sort of revival of this among the Byzantines. There was a posting recently with pics of the liturgy being celebrated in a seminary in Slovakia. While the Oriental Churches use it much more often.

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It might surprise you all that the 2nd Canon of the Weastern Liturgy is based on the liturgy of Hippolytus.
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Dear Stephanos,
May I suggest comparing an authentic text of the Anaphora of Hippolytus with the 2nd Eucharistic Prayer?

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You all know well that this type of tit for tat discussion will inevitably lead to ...who is non-, or un-, ..canonical. IF, we have an axe to grind, as I have been told before to be charitable, I think we should take this off-list to private email. Just my two cents, Mikhailo S Bohom

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Originally posted by incognitus:
Dear Stephanos,
May I suggest comparing an authentic text of the Anaphora of Hippolytus with the 2nd Eucharistic Prayer?

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I'm no scholar, but based simply on english translations I've browsed, I'd imagine that a faithful translation of the Anaphora of Hippolytus into Latin would look much different from the Latin text Eucharistic Prayer II (the Latin text of course being the standard by which we need to judge the present Roman Missal).

Cardinal Bugnini, on page 456 of his book, states that EPII is basically a newly composed Roman eucharistic prayer which used the AoH as a model.

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For once in his lamentable career, Bugnini approached honesty - the relationship between the Anaphora of Hippolytus and Eucharistic Prayer 2 is very loose indeed.

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I didn't imply it was an exact copy, I merely stated that it was based upon the 3rd Century Liturgy of Hippolytus!
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