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Does anyone know if there is any sort of Carpatho-Rusyn immigration database? I'm very interested in finding out if I might be Rusyn...I have ancestors from both Poland and Slovakia so I guess the possibility is there. Oh, Father Serge...great idea for the t-shirts! 
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Doubting Thomas. Not Rusyn myself but an amateur genealogist. Try this one. The first one I found on a Google search seemed to be dead. "Rusyn genealogy" as search words will turn up stuff. Note: you have to work backwards and get all the info you can from your relatives,censuses, vital records, etc, etc, etc. http://www.carpatho-rusyn.orgEdmac
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[quote=Doubting Thomas]Does anyone know if there is any sort of Carpatho-Rusyn immigration database? I'm very interested in finding out if I might be Rusyn...I have ancestors from both Poland and Slovakia so I guess the possibility is there. Doubting Thomas, The best method is to find your ancestral villages and then look at the Rusyn village database. Without having to buy Prof. Magocsi's book or the village map that we (Carpatho-Rusyn Society, C-RS) sell, the most thorough listing I can currently find is on our C-RS website. You can go here for the listings: http://www.carpathorusynsociety.org/Genealogy/membgen.htmlIt contains the C-RS members' villages which is not all inclusive unfortunately... If you are looking for information on a specific village, send me a PM. Being a local C-RS Chapter officer, I can help you out and/or point you in the right direction. My area of expertise is the Rusyns in Slovakia, where my ancestors are from and still live today.
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I suppose that "Poncan" would equally well mean "Yank" and "Yankee" - although not a member of the baseball team! I may make those t-shirts yet!
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I help with the jr high/high school age Sunday school class and the topic of the name of the diocese came up last week. The priest said "does it mean we're Russian", to which the answer came "no, we're Rusyn!". The corner-stone of the first church building (which burned) of my parish says, in English: "Hungaro-Russian Greek Catholic Church." There is NO DOUBT that anyone in this parish ever considered themselves Russian, if anything, a lot think that they are Slovaks. Honestly I think that much of the confusion came from the similarity of the two words and how to translate them into English and not the two nationalities themselves.
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Yes, it is in the English translation. Remember as well what I previously stated about having to have a concrete nation state at that time.
If I remember the adjectives correctly, here is how it broke down...
rus'kyj = rusyn
russkyj = russian
Example: Ja bisiduju po-rus'kyj ne po-russkyj...I speak rusyn, not russian.
Today, to clarify between themselves and russians, rusyns are known as rusyny, or rusnaci.
Many think that they are Slovak because they came from what was the Austro-Hungarian Empire that turned into the Slovak part of Czechoslovakia. A large percentage of ACROD churches originate from Greek Catholic Churches where the founders are from Zemplyn and Saris counties in present day Slovakia. Metropolitan Nicholas Smisko's roots are from around Michalovce.
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Thank you Edmac and Rusyn31 for your help!
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I concur with Rusyn31. There are lots of people who think they are Slovak or Hungarian or a couple of other nationalities when in fact they are Rusyn. Some immigrants wanted to get away from their nationality since it was looked down upon. If you can find out the village your ancestors came from, there are plenty of sources on the web that can let you know which churches served which villages and that might help determine immediately if you are Rusyn. Chances are if your ancestors were Greek-Catholic (Greko-Catholico) then you are Rusyn. If your ancestors came from a certain geographical area.
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Good luck! And welcome to the club--are you sure you're not Carpatho-Rusyn? If your relatives came from that area of Eastern Europe and were Greek Catholic, you might be Carpatho-Rusyn! (Do I sound like Jeff Foxworthy and his redneck jokes?)
Tim No intent to hijack this thread, but Tim's comment reminded me of a thread on another message board that began as a "You might be a Catholic if..." thread and then morphed into a "You might be a Byzantine Catholic if..." thread, a la Jeff Foxworthy. Same comments could apply here. My fav: "You might be a Carpatho-Rusyn if your home has at least one crucifix on the wall with what appears to be a pussywillow sprouting from behind it." Sorry  ... just had to toss that in... **ahem**... carry on...
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the American Carpatho-Russian Orthodox Diocease. Their Archeparchy and Patriarch are very close to my home town. When I was a kid, we lived about five blocks from their Cathedral. Then we moved when I was three to my parent's home town, about 15 miles away. I've been to the Cathedral often. It's quite beautiful and I love the Liturgy! It's been a bit since I've been there. I'll have to put it down on my "to do" list! I just wish I could receive Communion, but that is not possible just now. One possible day to visit is the second Sunday after Pentecost, which is the Synaxis of the saints of Carpatho-Rus in the diocese.
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Yes, it is in the English translation. Remember as well what I previously stated about having to have a concrete nation state at that time.
If I remember the adjectives correctly, here is how it broke down...
rus'kyj = rusyn
russkyj = russian
Example: Ja bisiduju po-rus'kyj ne po-russkyj...I speak rusyn, not russian.
Today, to clarify between themselves and russians, rusyns are known as rusyny, or rusnaci.
Many think that they are Slovak because they came from what was the Austro-Hungarian Empire that turned into the Slovak part of Czechoslovakia. A large percentage of ACROD churches originate from Greek Catholic Churches where the founders are from Zemplyn and Saris counties in present day Slovakia. Metropolitan Nicholas Smisko's roots are from around Michalovce. The majority of immigrants who founded my parish were from what is now present day Slovakia, though there were some Magyarized Rusyns, hence, the addition of the word "Hungaro" on the cornerstone. These remained when they and the Galicians who formed the church together split into two parishes. The cornerstone of the new church built in 1927-28 simply reads "Greek Catholic Church."
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You might be a Carpatho-Rusyn if you prefer Pirohi to almost any other food!
You might be a Carpatho-Rusyn if you know how to make holupki by the age of six!
You might be a Carpatho-Rusyn if you get just as many presents on St. Nicholas' Day as you do on Christmas Day!
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Here's [ orthodoxengland.org.uk] something from my maternal grandfather's village in East Slovakia, or as it's referred to here, Carpatho-Russia. --tim
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Ed,
For research purposes type "Podkarpatska Rus" in google or yahoo search engines.
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Where is Carpatho Russia? I cannot find it on any map. I went back two hundred years and can't find anything that mentions a Carpatho Russia. I assume that they speak Russian there since it is (???) in Russian territory?
Ed You've been around this forum for this long and haven't heard this brought up?  The patron Saint is St. Melk.
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