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And specifically about minors and morality. Wanna know something else? Something that keeps me from using the Russian internet when I can help it. The most obscene pornographic popup ads appear on Russian websites geared specifically at teenagers and young people! I cannot imagine what would be going through my mind if I were a minor and exposed to that filth. If I did have my hypothetical child, I do not know what kind of blockers I would need to install and if they even exist against this problem, so he would not click on a music-sharing site and all of a sudden be looking at two adults having intercourse or worse. I am not joking at all. If they want to regulate morality, why not start there? But it will probably tick off some people. For the record - this does not occur on the American internet. I use both on a regular basis, and I testify. You get pornographic popups in the American internet only if you specifically seek such content and do not have filters on.

Good points. I am all for censorship of the internet like in China.

I respect your opinions, dear Mariya, because they are informed opinions about something which you know intimately, just like I would like my opinions of Greece and/or the United States respected.

As I said, I think that we Americans are the kindest and most genuinely compassionate people on earth. I would like that to continue, and for this country to see the downward path it is taking in so many ways.

I also have anger towards politians here,just like you do with Russia, but I honestly do not think that my (or any one else's) opinions matter. The fate of this country has been decided from above and more and more people are becoming atheist. We are seeing all the evils that bear fruit from that.

We used to be the most religious and God believing country, but, sadly, not anymore.

May God have mercy on this world.


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You love the United States, Alice. So do I. And we disagree on so many issues. :-) May God bless the United States, and all her people that are so different, and all love her so much.

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I am sure that polygamy will be the next liberal cause masquerading as 'rights' and 'fairness' to all. Just wait and see. Let's hope it isn't something worse. Where will the line be drawn?

Where will that line be drawn?

That line has already been drawn and crossed.

See this:

http://news.yahoo.com/florida-judge-approves-birth-certificate-listing-three-parents-233555185.html

And this:

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...brazil-sparks-controversy/1#.URq1f47ZrH0

Yes, it's getting that crazy. And the scary thing is that there are a lot of people who simply see nothing wrong at all with any of this.

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The fate of this country has been decided from above and more and more people are becoming atheist.


Alice,

I'm sure it's not MUCH of a consolation, but the percentage of people who are decidedly atheist or agnostic in this country is something around 5% and hasn't really grown much in decades. It's just that more and more people do not identify themselves with any religion - around 15%-18% of the population, in fact. However, the majority these (about 80%) are theists who believe in God, or Jesus Christ, or a higher power.

So, for better or for worse, atheism and/or agnosticism isn't as much of a problem as people who may believe in God or a higher power but don't really care to identify with any specific religion or value system.

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Originally Posted by danman916
Originally Posted by Alice
I am sure that polygamy will be the next liberal cause masquerading as 'rights' and 'fairness' to all. Just wait and see. Let's hope it isn't something worse. Where will the line be drawn?

Where will that line be drawn?

That line has already been drawn and crossed.

See this:

http://news.yahoo.com/florida-judge-approves-birth-certificate-listing-three-parents-233555185.html

And this:

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...brazil-sparks-controversy/1#.URq1f47ZrH0

Yes, it's getting that crazy. And the scary thing is that there are a lot of people who simply see nothing wrong at all with any of this.
yes, now in US precedents, a child can have a minimum of 8 "parents."

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Originally Posted by IAlmisry
Originally Posted by danman916
Originally Posted by Alice
I am sure that polygamy will be the next liberal cause masquerading as 'rights' and 'fairness' to all. Just wait and see. Let's hope it isn't something worse. Where will the line be drawn?

Where will that line be drawn?

That line has already been drawn and crossed.

See this:

http://news.yahoo.com/florida-judge-approves-birth-certificate-listing-three-parents-233555185.html

And this:

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...brazil-sparks-controversy/1#.URq1f47ZrH0

Yes, it's getting that crazy. And the scary thing is that there are a lot of people who simply see nothing wrong at all with any of this.
yes, now in US precedents, a child can have a minimum of 8 "parents."

As if it wasn't enough when the concept of 'sperm donors' were first introduced to us; as if that didn't threaten the traditional parenting norm enough, and as if that didn't further confuse and destroy the sanctity of creating a new life as God intended....now we have so many gay couples donating and inseminating back and forth that it makes your head spin!

One doesn't know if one should laugh or cry!! crazy

Lord have mercy!

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Originally Posted by IAlmisry
yes, now in US precedents, a child can have a minimum of 8 "parents."

8 parents?
I'm not sure what you mean.
Can you elaborate?

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Originally Posted by IAlmisry
yes, now in US precedents, a child can have a minimum of 8 "parents."

8 parents?
I'm not sure what you mean.
Can you elaborate?
actually, it's ten.

man donates sperm to an egg donated by a woman who carries the child for a lesbian/gay couple. Case law exists for each to get parental rights, making 5. If the three donors have spouses, the spouses can get rights as well, making 8. If the original lesbian/gay couple break up and find significant others, they can join in as well and make it 10.

Throw in muliple divorces and "blended families" (I particularly hate that euphemism), and potential number under the law can be increased many-fold.

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